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MAP Alert #305, December 28, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers!
 
Our final alert in the current series, with an attachment from Gerard included.
 
Gerard Writes>
Hello to all,
 
I updated today the MAP Database with the individual measures.
I shall close the update of the MAP Database on December 31,2008 after the update of the various data (data of lightcurves, new names of MAP objects, modification of the H magnitudes by the MPC, historical data of H magnitude and selection of the future published MAP objects among the MAP objects seen during three oppositions with a confirmed difference of H magnitudes.

Numerous CCD measures came recently from John Fletcher, Richard Miles and myself. These measures were made with different methods and catalogs than before, than I created the Magnitude types CMc and CMr but used again the type UMu for the unfiltered measures made with the USNO-B, as for the USNO-A

Measures FLETCHER = Unfiltered USNO-B R Magnitudes = UMr + 0.4

Measures MILES = Unfiltered CMC14 V Magnitudes = CMu

Measures FAURE = Unfiltered CMC14 R Magnitudes = CMr + 0.44


Measures GMv BOOKAMER = Please Richard (B), let verify if the Mag V USNO ~
mag J GSC for the stars in the area of your asteroids.

If I shall have time, It will be Interesting in the future to put V-R known of each object (rare) or possibly the V-R family for the measures CMr and UMr

For the asteroid 1403, if the amplitude of the ligthcurve = 1.1, than half-amplitude = 0.55 and as # MAP H = 0.77, then we have to observe again this object, as for 914.

For the asteroid 162900 observed by Roger, H15.8 was unchanged in November and then for AMv = 15.3, the difference was F/0.4 and not F/0.5

For the asteroid 5222, I shall do again my measures of 2006 with the CMC 14 method.

Lastly, 766 Moguntia is "out of the MAP" with the last measures from Richard and myself. The averaged difference of magnitude now is B/0.01 !!!

The third oppositions are very useful to permit the elimination of the impact of the eventual variability or the errors of measures.


If you have some opportunities to observe before December 31,2008, the interesting goals for the MAP will be :

493 Griseldis actual MPC V15.0
1155 Aenna actual MPC V15.6 for CCD
1194 Aletta actual MPC V14.0
1330 Spiridonia actual MPC V15.3 for CCD
1403 Iseldonia actual MPC V14.3 for CCD, because certainly very faint
1987 Kaplan actual MPC V15.7 for CCD
2239 Paracelsus actual MPC V16.0 for CCD
4369 Seifert actual MPC V15.0
4440 Tchantches actual MPC V15.3 for CCD, but may be near 17 !
5222 Ioffe actual MPC V15.5 for CCD
6249 Jennifer actual MPC V14.9 for CCD, because at Dec. -22°


These objects also have already seen during at least 2 or 3 oppositions and will be good candidates for the next Report of the MAP in the MPB;
I identified these objects thanks to the lists of 2008 oppositions made by Bernard Guillaud-Saumur.


Good week-end, good Christmas but also good observations !
Gérard
 
Thank you Gerard <LG>
 
With this series of alerts now sent, I will be the first to admit that these are not as complete or detailed as they should be. Problems with this series include mail showing up in two in box's,
MSN and Yahoo. Please remember to NEVER reply to my  YAHOO box, it is used to send messages
only because of the "missing" header" troubles under MSN. This problem must again be addressed to end yahoo sending.
 
Other problems are sending  type not black, different type faces, and formatting work that causes all kinds of "tricks" to get over. Also, messages are often linked, with parts to be left out leaving me to  possibly miss things that should be kept in.  
 
What should you change when you send me messages, not much, black type and only to MSN please. The above troubles above have almost always been present, but not such a perfect
storm as this. So if important news HAS been left out in your recent messages to me, please re-compose, or cut and past them to me to be posted as such in the next alert. This will wipe the slate clean on 2008's alerts as we gear up for 2009!
 

Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/

AUDE Web Pages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map

 

 

MAP Alert #304, December 27, 2008

Greetings MAP Observers:

While we had planned a series of 3 alerts with current information on hand, an additional alert is in order.

Todayʼs messages highlight observations from John Fletcher and Andrew Salthouse, with Gerard's report to follow tomorrow.

John Fletcher writes:


>Hi Gerard. (and all)
Nothing to report new for MAP objects this month.
Regards John.
For interest below. Unfiltered CCD images two nights ago. Regards John.

NEO's including distance AU from Home Planet.

No. 53430 0.2au
>No. 162900 0.3au
>No.1864 0.4au
>No.1627 0.9au
>No. 8567 0.4au
>No.1998 BE7 0.5au
>No.2006 SZ217 0.2au
>No.102528 0.5au
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>COD J93
>OBS John Fletcher
>MEA John Fletcher
>TEL 0.25-m f/5.5 Schmidt-Cassegrain + CCD
>ACK MPCReport file updated 2008.11.25 22:27:55
>AC2 jfmto@blueyonder.co.uk
>NET USNO-B1.0
>J98B07E C2008 11 25.86345 03 38 56.94 -07 46 46.1 15.2 V J93
>J98B07E C2008 11 25.86556 03 38 56.89 -07 46 42.9 15.3 V J93
>J98B07E C2008 11 25.86767 03 38 56.83 -07 46 39.9 15.2 V J93
>K06SL7Z C2008 11 25.89443 05 09 37.20 +08 42 13.2 15.4 V J93
>K06SL7Z C2008 11 25.89655 05 09 37.03 +08 41 57.9 15.5 V J93
>K06SL7Z C2008 11 25.89867 05 09 36.87 +08 41 42.9 15.5 V J93
>01627 C2008 11 25.81682 03 05 47.79 -00 07 49.3 15.0 V J93
>01627 C2008 11 25.82105 03 05 47.48 -00 07 48.4 15.0 V J93
>01627 C2008 11 25.82528 03 05 47.17 -00 07 47.4 15.0 V J93
>01864 C2008 11 25.78903 12 42 13.60 +61 31 48.8 15.5 V J93
>01864 C2008 11 25.79115 12 42 13.44 +61 31 55.1 15.6 V J93
>01864 C2008 11 25.79326 12 42 13.21 +61 32 00.7 15.5 V J93
>08567 C2008 11 25.87616 03 03 56.63 -08 02 39.1 15.4 V J93
>08567 C2008 11 25.88039 03 03 56.66 -08 02 35.8 15.4 V J93
>08567 C2008 11 25.88885 03 03 56.75 -08 02 29.2 15.4 V J93
>53430 C2008 11 25.75510 03 13 12.25 +24 20 38.4 15.1 V J93
>53430 C2008 11 25.75722 03 13 11.85 +24 20 13.0 15.0 V J93
>53430 C2008 11 25.75933 03 13 11.48 +24 19 47.0 15.1 V J93
>A2528 C2008 11 25.90289 22 36 54.95 +36 38 17.0 16.2 V J93
>A2528 C2008 11 25.90501 22 36 55.20 +36 38 14.5 16.2 V J93
>A2528 C2008 11 25.90713 22 36 55.48 +36 38 12.0 16.1 V J93
>G2900 C2008 11 25.77194 03 13 04.50 +27 42 38.8 15.1 V J93
>G2900 C2008 11 25.77406 03 13 04.39 +27 42 43.2 15.0 V J93
>G2900 C2008 11 25.77618 03 13 04.26 +27 42 44.4 15.1 V J93
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>
>
>John Fletcher F.R.A.S.
>Mount Tuffley Observatory. Code J93
>Latitude: North 51 degrees 49minutes 51.3seconds.
>Longitude: West 02 degrees 15minutes 26.6seconds.
>Astronomy Homepages: http://www.mtobsy.co.uk>

End report>

Good active work John!

As Andrew Salthouse approaches A2K (2 thousand asteroids seen) He sends word below, one thousand over a thousand!

Lawrence:

Thanks for the note below (last alert). I try to keep up with observations to the best of my ability. I have noted a few discrepancies in recent weeks but have been so busy at work I did not have time to write. The reason for my peculiar email heading is that I have passed another milestone, having observed over a thousand asteroids numbered over 1000. (Obviously this is a precondition to reaching 2000.) Actually I passed this mark a couple of months ago. As of today I stand at 1974, of which 946 are numbered 1-1000, 966 are numbered 1001-10000, and 62 are numbered 10001+ (including those without numbers). Pluto is not included in these totals, otherwise the latter category would be 63. Not including Pluto, I have 20,289 recorded visual observations at 6,622 oppositions.

end report>

Andrew will no doubt pass 2000 shortly, we await his erros observations when complete.

Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/

AUDE Web Pages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map


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MAP Alert #303, December 26, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Obsevers!
 
Our second alert in a series of three highlighting this months MAP reports.
 
Gerard Farure reports his observations since October.
 
Hi To All:
As I was very busy, I was silent since some weeks, but also I had few news
on my Astronomical activity. I often passed my free time to do measures on my CCD images with the use of the two methods elaborated to permit easily accurate magnitudes with unfiltered CCD cameras. I made more than one thousand measures on more than 500 stars and tens of asteroids, but my analyses yet are not finished.

The method of the use of the Tycho stars tested by me yet is not sure.
On the contrary, the method of the use of the CMC14 catalog tested by Roger Dymock and Richard Miles and already included in the Astrometrica software by Herbert Raab is operational.

Since the beginning of October, here, the great majority of the nights were
cloudy and the snow frequently fell in November.
Than I had very few opportunities to observe and only reached to be two
nights under the stars, one visually and one with my Sbig ST6 camera.
These two nights were cold ( -5°C and -6°C ) with the frost for the second
night !

I had many goals among the MAP asteroids, but alas I only reached to
observe four of them.

Visually, I observed only two asteroids on November 27 because I was frozen and also because the clouds and the snow came quickly before the end of the night.

Evening of November 27,2008 :
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914 Palisana UMv 12.6 B/0.1
6542 Jacquescousteau AMv ~16.2

For Palisana, I confirmed visually the CCD observations from Richard MILES
who used the CMC14 method. For this third opposition, Palisana is not very
discordant as before. We shall need to observe again it during next
oppositions.


Night of December 07-08, 2008 :
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This night was devoted to the CCD observations and despite some problems, I reached to image 7 asteroids measured yesterday with the CMC14 method.

The CMC14 is more accurate than the USNO and always it gives results with
better accuracy.
The CCD images were made without filter, in a "r" Band near the R band with
the use of V-R = 0.44 for the asteroids. The type of MAP measures is "CMr"

The averaged results are below :

(658) Asteria pred. V14.3 8 measures CMr~14.4 F/0.1 MAP object
(766) Moguntia " V14.1 7 measures CMR~13.8 B/0.3 MAP object
(6542) Jacquescousteau " V16.5 19 measures CMr~16.5
(6838) Okuda " V15.3 5 measures CMr~15.7 F/0.4 MAP object
(7462) Grenoble " V16.0 20 measures CMr~15.9 B/0.1
(9356) Erileke " V15.8 3 measures CMr~15.9 F/0.1
- 2008 UE7 " V15.7 8 measures CMr~15.5 B/0.2 Apollo 2


My results also are nearly similar to the measures from Richard (on images
taken on December 06) :

For (766) B/0.27 and B/0.38
For (658) F/0.14 and F/0.14
For (6838) F/0.37 and F/0.43

...despite a difference in the process, because I used V-R = 0.44 as my CCD
camera is nearly the R band. It's a very good news !!!
The owners of a CCD camera may obtain accurate magnitudes to 0.1 mag and better !


Lastly, during the analysis of my first measured image, I found, near
(658)Asteria, a curious star of R about 12.5, missing in the GSC and USNO
catalogs, but present in the CMC14 catalog and apparently without a GCVS
designation.

Its positions are : 05H57M04.80S and +25°44'52.41" (J2000.0)

A search on the websites VIZIER, ALADIN and SIMBAD permitted to identify it with a carbon star named "Kiso C2-97"
This special star frequently obscured by carbon dusts sometimes is well
visible at V12, but sometimes fainter than its neighbors of mag V17-18, as
in the image "POSSI-O-DSS2" where it is invisible, then under mag 19.0 !
Apparently, it is not included in the GCVS catalog or NSV catalog ?

The predictions of local weather seem bad for the next week, under the low
clouds of a future anticyclone. May be I shall not observe again in 2008,
but I shall work on my main goal : The MAP Database update !


Happy Christmas and good end of year !
Gerard


NB: I join below the measures of the CCD images made without filter, in a
"r" Band near the R band, then the results are without the use of V-R =
0.44 for the asteroids, taken in account later.

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COD XXX
COM Long. 5 35 58.9 E, Lat. 44 59 30.1 N, Alt. 1165m
CON G.Faure, F-38650 Chateau-Bernard France [gpmfaure@club-internet.fr]
OBS G.Faure
MEA G.Faure
TEL 0.2m f/10.0 reflector + CCD
ACK MPCReport file updated 2008.12.15 23:56:03
AC2 gpmfaure@club-internet.fr
NET CMC-14

K08U07E C2008 12 08.11371 07 36 53.36 +17 30 44.8 14.93C XXX
K08U07E C2008 12 08.11677 07 36 57.06 +17 30 48.2 15.15C XXX
K08U07E C2008 12 08.11805 07 36 58.55 +17 30 49.4 14.96C XXX
K08U07E C2008 12 08.11902 07 36 59.72 +17 30 51.0 15.11C XXX
K08U07E C2008 12 08.12646 07 37 08.43 +17 30 58.6 15.00C XXX
K08U07E C2008 12 08.12906 07 37 11.39 +17 31 01.1 15.10C XXX
K08U07E C2008 12 08.14183 07 37 26.66 +17 31 14.8 15.05C XXX
K08U07E C2008 12 08.14381 07 37 28.76 +17 31 16.8 15.25C XXX

00658 C2008 12 08.09410 05 57 30.91 +25 46 55.5 14.02C XXX
00658 C2008 12 08.10290 05 57 30.38 +25 46 55.6 13.99C XXX
00658 C2008 12 08.10356 05 57 30.36 +25 46 55.5 14.01C XXX
00658 C2008 12 08.10423 05 57 30.31 +25 46 55.5 14.01C XXX
00658 C2008 12 08.10489 05 57 30.28 +25 46 55.3 14.07C XXX
00658 C2008 12 08.10622 05 57 30.19 +25 46 55.6 13.94C XXX
00658 C2008 12 08.10755 05 57 30.11 +25 46 55.5 13.97C XXX
00658 C2008 12 08.10983 05 57 29.99 +25 46 55.6 13.98C XXX

00766 C2008 12 08.01343 03 50 05.46 +33 48 33.6 13.46C XXX
00766 C2008 12 08.01536 03 50 05.35 +33 48 33.3 13.33C XXX
00766 C2008 12 08.01759 03 50 05.22 +33 48 33.0 13.44C XXX
00766 C2008 12 08.02192 03 50 04.98 +33 48 32.5 13.40C XXX
00766 C2008 12 08.02264 03 50 04.94 +33 48 32.3 13.39C XXX
00766 C2008 12 08.02337 03 50 04.88 +33 48 32.3 13.35C XXX
00766 C2008 12 08.02619 03 50 04.73 +33 48 31.7 13.36C XXX

06542 C2008 12 07.89309 03 37 48.32 +24 38 16.8 16.18C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.90157 03 37 47.73 +24 38 16.1 15.82C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.90325 03 37 47.67 +24 38 15.2 15.87C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.90409 03 37 47.63 +24 38 15.3 16.04C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.90493 03 37 47.62 +24 38 14.9 16.26C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.90576 03 37 47.49 +24 38 15.1 15.93C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.90661 03 37 47.48 +24 38 15.5 15.76C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.90829 03 37 47.33 +24 38 15.2 16.00C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.91193 03 37 47.15 +24 38 14.4 16.07C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.91289 03 37 47.09 +24 38 13.6 16.05C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.91480 03 37 46.93 +24 38 14.0 16.10C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.91957 03 37 46.61 +24 38 12.9 16.24C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.92765 03 37 46.11 +24 38 11.9 16.03C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.92848 03 37 46.06 +24 38 11.6 16.02C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.93358 03 37 45.72 +24 38 10.5 16.10C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.93693 03 37 45.52 +24 38 10.2 16.20C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.94052 03 37 45.33 +24 38 09.2 16.31C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.94303 03 37 45.20 +24 38 09.0 16.02C XXX
06542 C2008 12 07.94388 03 37 45.08 +24 38 09.7 16.18C XXX

06838 C2008 12 08.00444 03 33 50.21 +20 53 26.6 15.40C XXX
06838 C2008 12 08.00528 03 33 50.17 +20 53 26.6 15.33C XXX
06838 C2008 12 08.00611 03 33 50.15 +20 53 25.5 15.17C XXX
06838 C2008 12 08.00694 03 33 50.07 +20 53 25.3 15.10C XXX
06838 C2008 12 08.00862 03 33 50.05 +20 53 24.2 15.15C XXX

07462 C2008 12 08.03356 04 47 56.54 +33 21 27.3 15.62C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.03745 04 47 56.28 +33 21 26.8 15.64C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.03829 04 47 56.23 +33 21 26.1 15.38C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.04080 04 47 56.02 +33 21 26.0 15.53C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.04248 04 47 55.91 +33 21 25.4 15.55C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.04917 04 47 55.41 +33 21 24.6 15.56C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.05000 04 47 55.30 +33 21 24.4 15.61C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.05168 04 47 55.21 +33 21 23.8 15.41C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.05931 04 47 54.60 +33 21 22.4 15.72C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.06266 04 47 54.37 +33 21 21.8 15.53C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.06541 04 47 54.14 +33 21 21.4 15.63C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.07043 04 47 53.77 +33 21 20.2 15.54C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.07590 04 47 53.34 +33 21 19.5 15.46C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.08089 04 47 52.96 +33 21 18.1 15.32C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.08220 04 47 52.88 +33 21 18.6 15.31C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.08354 04 47 52.76 +33 21 17.6 15.37C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.08387 04 47 52.74 +33 21 17.5 15.49C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.08420 04 47 52.72 +33 21 17.8 15.34C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.08486 04 47 52.67 +33 21 17.6 15.27C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.08619 04 47 52.58 +33 21 16.6 15.26C XXX
07462 C2008 12 08.08686 04 47 52.64 +33 21 17.7 15.14C XXX

09356 C2008 12 08.11371 07 37 22.48 +17 23 40.9 15.35C XXX
09356 C2008 12 08.11677 07 37 22.45 +17 23 42.2 15.48C XXX
09356 C2008 12 08.11805 07 37 22.45 +17 23 42.6 15.54C XXX
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More work from Gerard plus updates from Andrew Salthouse will complete this current
series this Sunday.
 

Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/
 
AUDE Web Pages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map


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MAP Alert#302, December 22, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers:
 
Richard Miles reports his obserations in this first of a late December series  of the MAP Alerts. Two more alerts are to follow over Christmas weekend coming. My thanks go out to Gerard for suggesting this format.
 
Richard Miles writes:

Here is my latest report for MAP. Mean data (photometric reduction of 5 images each using Astrometrica).
(1403) Idelsonia is 2.0 mag fainter than predicted confirming earlier report (see below).

2008 Dec 6.842 (658) 13.97 +/-0.03 MPC: 14.3 Delta(o-c)=  -0.33
2008 Dec 6.881 (658) 14.35 +/-0.01 MPC: 14.3 Delta(o-c)=  +0.05

2008 Dec 6.822 (766) 13.74 +/-0.01 MPC: 14.1 Delta(o-c)=  -0.36
2008 Dec 6.872 (766) 13.70 +/-0.01 MPC: 14.1 Delta(o-c)=  -0.40

2008 Dec 6.810 (914) 12.64 +/-0.01 MPC: 12.7 Delta(o-c)=  -0.06
2008 Dec 6.851 (914) 12.65 +/-0.01 MPC: 12.7 Delta(o-c)=  -0.05

2008 Dec 6.859 (1122) 15.09 +/-0.04 MPC: 14.4 Delta(o-c)=  +0.69

2008 Dec 6.825 (1194) 14.76 +/-0.01 MPC: 14.5 Delta(o-c)=  +0.26
2008 Dec 6.874 (1194) 14.75 +/-0.02 MPC: 14.5 Delta(o-c)=  +0.25

2008 Dec 6.846 (1330) 15.10 +/-0.02 MPC: 15.1  Delta(o-c)=  0.00
2008 Dec 6.884 (1330) 15.34 +/-0.02 MPC: 15.1 Delta(o-c)=  +0.24

2008 Dec 6.838 (1403)  16.03 +/-0.08 MPC: 14.0 Delta(o-c)=  +2.03

2008 Dec 6.888 (5222) 15.80 +/-0.03 MPC: 15.5 Delta(o-c)=  +0.30

2008 Dec 6.864 (6000) 15.28 +/-0.02 MPC: 14.9 Delta(o-c)=  +0.38

2008 Dec 6.830 (6838) 15.60 +/-0.02 MPC: 15.3 Delta(o-c)=  +0.30
2008 Dec 6.877 (6838) 15.87 +/-0.04 MPC: 15.3 Delta(o-c)=  +0.57

N.B.  Previous data reported in MAP Alert #299:
2008 Oct 27.911  (914) V=12.11 +/-0.01  MPC: 12.1  Delta(o-c)=  0.0 mag
2008 Oct 27.915  (1122) V=14.00 +/-0.03  MPC: 13.4  Delta(o-c)= +0.4 mag
2008 Oct 27.924  (1403) V=14.48 +/-0.03  MPC: 13.0  Delta(o-c)= +1.5 mag
2008 Oct 27.918  (6000) V=14.38 +/-0.01  MPC: 13.9  Delta(o-c)= +0.5 mag

Note that no rotation period is known for (1122), (6000) and (6838).

Richard Miles (J77)
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/
 
AUDE Web Pages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map

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MAP Alert #301, December 6, 2008

Greetings MAP Observers!

Faint objects in suspected magnitude error as report by Roger Harvey, and follow up by Richard Miles  highlight this December weekend MAP report. 

Roger reports:

Dec. 3    5942 Denzilrobert     5:00 – 5:52 UT      F/ 0.8 @ 15.9

             20014 1991 RM29    3:46 – 4:48             F/0.5 @ 15.8

I have missed 4797 on three separate nights including tonight which was near perfect (for here) advertised at 14.5.  The MPC has the asteroid 1.6 fainter than this and I strongly suspect they are in fact much closer to reality.

Roger> end report

5942 Denzilrobert  is due a few tenths magnuitude brighter in the coming week, but the moon will wash away any improvement. 20014 1991 RM29  will fade only slightly and both are expected to remain good CCD targets.

Richard Miles submits his report;

Lawrence:

I would like to add some comments to my previous MAP alert report, #299:

Herbert Raab and I have worked on upgrading the Astrometrica software so that it can easily perform pseudo-V or -R photometry to a precision of the nearest 0.01 mag, and a typical absolute accuracy in V of +/-0.03 mag (using an SXV-H9 camera) for those areas of the sky covered by the Carlsberg Meridian Catalogue, CMC-14.  My previous report quoting astrometric data for 5 asteroids (914, 1122, 1403, 6000 and 6911) comprised between 5-10 frames on each object.  The images were taken unfiltered within the space of only 20 minutes or so, and were transformed from Clear-to-V using Astrometrica.  The software automatically downloads the required catalog information for each frame in a matter of a few seconds.

I conducted this 'experiment' on 2008 October 27/28.  The same evening between 2100-2130 UT I also did some brighter asteroids to see how easy it is to monitor their magnitude's.  In the space of less than 30 minutes, I took 45 image's 6 objects ranging in altitude from 13-73 degrees above the horizon and was able to reduce them all using Astrometrica in a similar length of time.  The summary of the results are as follows:

Asteroid     V   st.dev  MPC  V-MPC  Alt.(deg)
43 Ariadne   11.12 0.02  11.3  -0.2  35  (10 measures)
52 Europa    11.47 0.02  11.4  +0.1  28  (10 measures)
64 Angelina  11.89 0.02  11.7  +0.2  41  (5 measures)
71 Niobe     12.26 0.01  12.1  +0.2  73  (10 measures)
121 Hermione 12.21 0.02  12.4  -0.2  22  (5 measures)
751 Faina    12.15 0.02  12.2  -0.1  13  (5 measures)

For the record, I attach the astrometry and photometry (45 lines in all) below.  Suggest you exclude these from the next report however if you don't want readers to be submerged under a mass of numbers!
 
Cheers, Richard Miles, Director - Asteroids and Remote Planets Section, BAA (MPC J77)
Email: arps@britastro.org
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What promising results using these catalogs and methods. Will such excellent results ever make into revised suggested H values outside the minor planet bulletin? They should be of course, seeing that Richard and Herbert Raab  are in every way getting this down to a science.

Please note I have attached  the astrometry and photometry he suggested might make the alert too long. Please read as well.

Anymore news? Not much here. I did see the last shuttle here but missed the ISS TOOLBAG being too low and faint, later for this. Did I say not much, the perfect Moon/Venus/Jupiter triangle we saw this week was as good as it gets. Hope others had a good sight as well.  

 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
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MAP Alert #300, November 27, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers!
 
Observation success and readers comments highlight this
USA Thanksgiving 300th MAP alert!!! My greatest thanks to
all how have, and continue to make this project possible.
 
Observations of notice:
Richard Bookamer forwards his latest observations for our database.
  
<Here are my recent observations of 1403, including my first AMv observation.
    
 1403 Idelsonia   2008 Oct 19.09723   F/0.5   GMv
1403 Idelsonia    2008 Nov 4.05001     F/0.7   AMv>

Roger Harvey sends this call for observations report:
November 24:      162900 2001 HG31   2:55 – 4:10 UT  F/0.5 @ 15.3
This object is not on the fade, holding in the mid 15ths in December
(using his predicted mag.)

Richard Miles sends an addition to MAP Alert #299, best placed in our
next alert. Thanks you Richard.

Ben Hudgens sends this report:
For me not a lot has been happening this year.  I've downsized in aperture and now use a 13" dob for visual work.  That also means I won't be observing much in the 15th magnitude reaches.    Thus there are fewer and fewer 'new' asteroids that I have not logged previously.   I will probably reach the 2,300 mark by year's end if the weather allows and my year total for this year will be about 100 asteroids.     All of this interest in the minor planets was motivated by Dr. J. U. Gunter and his publication,  Tonight's Asteroids.   Hard to believe that was over 35 years ago.     I am now slowly moving into the realm of CCD imaging and hope to be able to contribute light curves and astrometry of the minor planets in coming months.
 
Brian Warner writes:
Hi Lawrence,
First, congratulations on reaching the milestone of 300 MAP alerts.
You and Gerard are to be congratulated for all your hard work and
tireless efforts.
I passed 300 light curves some time ago. Since 1999 I've published
about 450 asteroid lightcurves, all appearing almost exclusively
in the Minor Planet Bulletin. MPB's editor, Richard Binzel, just
suggested that I print them all out to make a temporary mural,
scaling them all about the same so that the differences in shape
and amplitudes among curves would be even more noticeable.
If each one of them were printed on a letter-sized sheet (8.5"x11"),
they would take up about 292 square feet (27 square meters) of
wall space! I figure the east side of the house has just enough
room, but I don't think the home owners association would appreciate
my impromptu outdoor art.

Clear Skies,
Brian D. Warner
Palmer Divide Observatory
 
Richard Bookamer writes:
My recent small success: (hardly small LG)
 
   On Nov. 19, 2008 I viewed my 1040th asteroid:  155 Scylla.  In mythology Scylla was a six-headed monster. 
My own experience with Scylla's namesake asteroid was not that bad, but was certainly somewhat frustrating.
   For over six years, 155 Scylla was the lowest numbered asteroid that I had not seen.  I came to think of
it as my "low-numbered nemesis."  But now, finally, that dubious honor goes to 254 Augusta.
   I have now seen all of the asteroids with assigned numbers of 250 or less.  Two years ago I had seen all
of them except for Scylla, which for so many years has remained a thorn in my side.  So of course I'm happy
to have finally removed that thorn.
   Among the asteroids with numbers less than 1000, there are still 198 that I have not seen.  So I still
have quite a few thorns left!  Some of them I will certainly never get unless I obtain a better telescope or
move to a location with a darker sky.  And as for 878 Mildred, has anyone ever observed it visually?  But
it's still fun to keep trying.
   No doubt most of us have a low-numbered nemesis or two.  But to all of the MAP observers, visual and CCD
alike, I wish happy holidays, clear skies and plenty of asteroidal debris in your telescope fields.
   ---Richard Bookamer
 
Roger Harvey writes:
Hi Lawrence,
Considering the economy of late I’d love to cash in on the credit you extended me (5000th asteroid?)!At this writing my lifetime total is 4725.  On paper there seem to be enough targets for me to reach the 5000 mark.
6000 is probably out of the question considering the many issues that come into play in such a quest.  To name a few such as;
The average magnitude of asteroids I have yet to observe continues to grow fainter.
My eyes continue to grow older and less sensitive to averted vision.
Light pollution increases with abandon now that I am within the city limits of Concord, and the church across the street is building a sports facility with night lighting.
Atmospheric transparency is decreasing thanks to many sources.
At the end of the day Gerard can see deeper with his C-8 than I can with my 29-inch scope!
Roger (End report)
These sound like my problem as well, since 2002 its has been all downhill here.
 
Gerard Writes:
Hello,  Lastly, after more than 50 nights without stars, I shall try to observe during the first part of the night, Thursday evening, if the weatherpredictions are confirmed.  Yesterday evening, I updated my observational program of asteroids and sawsome interesting MAP asteroids which already were observed during two past oppositions or observed for the third opposition during their actualopposition. I shall try to observe at first the MAP minor planets with two pastoppositions, again for the next MPB report, but also the third oppositionobjets to increase the total of measures.  These MAP objects are (with their V predicted magnitude for Nov.28;0 ) : 
(658) Asteria V14.6 (2 opp.)
(766) Moguntia V14.1 (2 opp.)
(914) Palisana V12,5 (3 opp.)
(1122) Neith V14.2 (3 opp.)
(1194) Aletta V14.5 (2 opp.)
(1330) Spiridonia V15.1 (2 opp.)
(1403) Iseldonia V13.7 (3 opp.)
(5222) Ioffe V15.5 (2 opp.)
(6000) United Nations V14.7 (3 opp.)
(6838) Okuda V15.1 (2 opp.)  
Otherwise, I shall try to identify visually two minor planets with àparticular name : 
(6564) Jacquescousteau at v16,2 at the time of its opposition on November24,2008
(7462) Grenoble at v16,0 at the time of its opposition on December 12,2008  I shall do a night of CCD images to obtain images of these two objects, for a brief article in two French review and local newspaper.
Sounds great Gerard, thanks for posting these excellent objects to the group.I hope you can pass along newspaper artical if possible URL perhaps?
 
Dr Marco Langbroek is a satellite observer, asteroid discover and namer of asteroids as well,
always willing to lend a hand (and brain) with my own basic satellite observing questions.
He had an asteroid named for himself this year (183294) Langbroek, as well as naming
(179678) Rietmeijer,(132820) Miskotte,(142014) Neirinck, (132798) Kürti. Notes from him
today mention a possible Trojan discovery.
 
Reader Vishnu Reddy continues his schooling to become a professional astronomer. 
 
With such coverage from our readers there is little I can add. I hope to see the lost
ISS tool bag (33442 for those of you who wish to try also) and of course more asteroids
before the years end.
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/
 
AUDE Web Pages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map
 

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MAP Alert #299, October 31, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers:
 
At last both time and energy give me a chance to relay this weeks messages in a Halloween issue
of the MAP alerts.
 
A little house keeping first.
You might notice I have placed a "reply to" above the MAP alert title. Please use this rather then the e-mail "reply to" make sure it get to my Hotmail account. I don't really check my yahoo in-box everyday,  so a message might remain unseen if sent there.
 
Also, my hours at work can best be described as a "wild card" these days. Working 36 hours over 3 days then 16 over two will from time to time place alerts a day or two off, depending  on what's up here at night.  After just 1.5 weeks it seems impossible my shops planned short staffing can last long. This leaves me with just over two hours at home before bedtime  3 nights a week So if you do not see your message posted right away, please bear with me, thanks.
 
Now on the observations!
 
Roger Harvey reports a faint object, good for more CCD observations.
For a change this object is becoming brighter in November rather then the  constant fade many of Roger's object seems to have. Peaking at 15.0 (predicted) is not bright thought, maybe 15.5 based on his sighting.

October 28,   5062  Gleenmiller 5:19-6:16 UT  F/0.5 
 
Richard Miles sends an excellent report below, with great results for 1403 Idelsonia, followed  by a light curve report.  Please mark well his N.B. or "nota bene," which  means "mark well" in Latin. I usually see this in 18th century newspapers, more then nice to see it here.
 
 
From Richard Miles,
Here is my report from tonight:

N.B.  (1403) Idelsonia  is 1.5 magnitudes FAINTER then the MPC indicates!!
I shall re-observe it shortly.
R.

Summary data (photometric reduction using Astrometrica):
2008 Oct 27.911  (914) V=12.11 +/-0.01  MPC: 12.1  Delta(o-c)=  0.0 mag
2008 Oct 27.915  (1122) V=14.00 +/-0.03  MPC: 13.4  Delta(o-c)= +0.4 mag
2008 Oct 27.924  (1403) V=14.48 +/-0.03  MPC: 13.0  Delta(o-c)= +1.5 mag
2008 Oct 27.918  (6000) V=14.38 +/-0.01  MPC: 13.9  Delta(o-c)= +0.5 mag
2008 Oct 27.921  (6911) V=15.57 +/-0.05  MPC: 15.1  Delta(o-c)= +0.5 mag

Report (not in MPC format):
COD J77
CON  [rmiles@baa.u-net.com]
OBS R. Miles
MEA R. Miles
TEL 0.28-m f/10 Schmidt-Cassegrain + CCD
ACK MPCReport file updated 2008.10.27 23:08:05
AC2 rmiles@baa.u-net.com
NET CMC-14
000914  C2008 10 27.90936 01 58 06.29 +40 32 30.8          12.10V      J77
000914  C2008 10 27.90967 01 58 06.27 +40 32 30.5          12.10V      J77
000914  C2008 10 27.90998 01 58 06.25 +40 32 30.3          12.11V      J77
000914  C2008 10 27.91029 01 58 06.23 +40 32 30.0          12.12V      J77
000914  C2008 10 27.91060 01 58 06.21 +40 32 29.7          12.12V      J77
000914  C2008 10 27.91091 01 58 06.19 +40 32 29.5          12.11V      J77
000914  C2008 10 27.91122 01 58 06.18 +40 32 29.3          12.09V      J77
000914  C2008 10 27.91153 01 58 06.15 +40 32 28.9          12.11V      J77
000914  C2008 10 27.91184 01 58 06.13 +40 32 28.7          12.12V      J77

001122  C2008 10 27.91392 00 34 51.10 -02 58 35.3          14.05V      J77
001122  C2008 10 27.91429 00 34 50.94 -02 58 34.3          13.99V      J77
001122  C2008 10 27.91466 00 34 50.99 -02 58 34.6          13.97V      J77
001122  C2008 10 27.91503 00 34 51.00 -02 58 34.8          14.01V      J77
001122  C2008 10 27.91539 00 34 50.93 -02 58 35.2          13.98V      J77

001403  C2008 10 27.92365 02 41 47.19 -01 38 50.0          14.49V      J77
001403  C2008 10 27.92401 02 41 47.21 -01 38 50.2          14.50V      J77
001403  C2008 10 27.92438 02 41 47.23 -01 38 50.4          14.47V      J77
001403  C2008 10 27.92475 02 41 47.18 -01 38 50.5          14.44V      J77

006000  C2008 10 27.91769 02 29 10.69 +06 42 29.4          14.36V      J77
006000  C2008 10 27.91795 02 29 10.65 +06 42 29.5          14.40V      J77
006000  C2008 10 27.91820 02 29 10.64 +06 42 29.6          14.37V      J77
006000  C2008 10 27.91845 02 29 10.63 +06 42 29.5          14.38V      J77
006000  C2008 10 27.91870 02 29 10.61 +06 42 29.6          14.38V      J77

006911  C2008 10 27.92023 02 28 06.08 +06 45 24.4          15.53V      J77
006911  C2008 10 27.92060 02 28 06.10 +06 45 23.7          15.63V      J77
006911  C2008 10 27.92097 02 28 06.05 +06 45 23.1          15.57V      J77
006911  C2008 10 27.92134 02 28 06.04 +06 45 22.2          15.62V      J77
006911  C2008 10 27.92170 02 28 06.00 +06 45 21.7          15.54V      J77
006911  C2008 10 27.92207 02 28 05.97 +06 45 21.3          15.52V      J77

Summary:
 
Re. (1403) Idelsonia

Analyzing the light curve, it appears to have a rotation period of 5.7 +/- 0.2 hr and an amplitude of 1.1 mag.
The H value should be 12.1 +/- 0.1, and not 10.6 as documented by the MPC.

This compares with the LC Database maintained by Brian Warner, which indicates a period of 5.458 hr and an amplitude of just 0.1 mag !
May need to get another night to fix its rotation rate more accurately.

Richard

Here's a minimum and maximum for 1403.
Amplitude = 1.1 mag.
Mean mag is about V=14.2, i.e. 1.2 mag fainter than MPC.
The new Astrometrica works a treat!

Bedtime now,
Richard


  001403  C2008 10 27.92365 02 41 47.19 -01 38 50.0          14.49V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.02148 02 41 42.32 -01 39 31.0          14.64V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.02478 02 41 42.18 -01 39 32.5          14.76V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.02671 02 41 42.10 -01 39 33.3          14.81V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.02816 02 41 42.03 -01 39 34.1          14.80V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.02912 02 41 41.93 -01 39 34.3          14.79V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.04370 02 41 41.25 -01 39 40.4          14.48V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.04515 02 41 41.14 -01 39 40.9          14.40V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.05972 02 41 40.43 -01 39 47.1          14.04V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.06165 02 41 40.33 -01 39 47.8          14.00V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.06874 02 41 39.98 -01 39 50.6          13.86V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.07164 02 41 39.84 -01 39 52.0          13.82V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.07551 02 41 39.64 -01 39 53.7          13.78V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.08003 02 41 39.42 -01 39 55.5          13.74V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.09080 02 41 38.88 -01 40 00.1          13.72V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.09225 02 41 38.79 -01 40 00.7          13.71V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.09467 02 41 38.68 -01 40 01.6          13.72V J77
  001403  C2008 10 28.09997 02 41 38.44 -01 40 03.7          13.78V J77
 
 
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/
 
AUDE Web Pages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map

 
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MAP Alert #298, October 26, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers!
 
Observations by John Fletcher and observing targets from Gerard Faure highlight this late October MAP alert.
 
Gerard writes:
For this lunation, we have 6 MAP objects to observe FOR THEIR THIRD MAP OPPOSITION : 
 
(914) Palisana of mag v12
(1122) Neith of mag V13
(1403) Iseldonia of mag v14
(6000) United Nations de mag v14
(6911) Nancygreen de mag v15 (corrected by the MPC, with H equal to the H MAP)
<How nice!  LG>
These goals are proprietary for the observations of this lunation!
I think that I shall observe for the night of Saturday. The weather
predictions seem to be good...<End report>
 
Hope to hear of successful observations from Gerard, snow showers here.
 
John Fletcher follows up observations made by Roger Harvey in the last MAP alert,  with asteroid 6896 1987 RE1. His observations find 6896 1987 RE1  in error, by a little less then Roger, about F/0.3-04 using the current MPC predictions.  Good work both
John and Roger.
His report:
COD J93
OBS John Fletcher
MEA John Fletcher
TEL 0.25-m f/5.5 Schmidt-Cassegrain + CCD
ACK MPCReport file updated 2008.10.26 23:31:55
AC2 jfmto@blueyonder.co.uk
NET NOMAD
06896 C2008 10 26.95755 01 27 12.25 +17 52 25.3 15.4 V J93
06896 C2008 10 26.95897 01 27 12.12 +17 52 25.1 15.4 V J93
06896 C2008 10 26.96039 01 27 12.00 +17 52 24.9 15.4 V J93
09292 C2008 10 26.94531 01 35 42.38 +08 03 47.3 15.5 V J93
09292 C2008 10 26.94955 01 35 42.17 +08 03 47.9 15.5 V J93
09292 C2008 10 26.95378 01 35 41.96 +08 03 48.5 15.5 V J93
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Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/
 
AUDE Web Pages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map
 
 
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MAP Alert #297, October 24, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers!
 
At last, 12 hours days and computer troubles have ended to allow a brief MAP alert on our  march to 300 alerts!
 
Roger Harvey reports on two faint asteroid in suspected magnitude error.
 
October 21   
6896  1987 RE1    2:50 – 4:14 UT   F/ 0.5F @ 15.5 MV
9292  1982 EU2    3:03 – 4:20       F/ 0.6F @ 15.6 MV
 
Both are fading placing them in the CCD realm for more observations. Perhaps only Gerards Faure's excellent skies might reveal these to his eyes.  
 
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/
 
AUDE Web Pages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map

 
 
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MAP Alert #296, October 4, 2008
See attachment page @ http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/id11.html
 
Greetings MAP Observers!
 
Current lunation observation reports from Roger Harvey, Gerard Faure and  Richard Bookamer highlight next October MAP Alert.
 
Please note, Gerard Faure might have a new e-mail address soon with a ISP buy out underway.
If this address changes, this change will be passed along to readers.
 
Roger Harvey reports:
October  3:  29566 1998 FK5       5:50 UT – 6:15UT     F/0.7f @ 15.8.    I had fortunate geometry on this fast mover (1.72 arcmin/hour) and watched it go between two brighter stars.
 
Apollo 2002 GM5 was another story.  Despite being advertised at 14.0 and moving at 96 arcmin/hour, I tried from 6:20 – 7:32 without success.  If JPL’s topocentric ephemeris was accurate, the 500 foot asteroid was much fainter than predicted. (Note I check the MPC today, to find this predicted @Mv 21.7 on this date,
JPL off?)
 
Gerard Reports:
Hi to all,
Despite frequent low clouds during the nights of late September, I had the chance to have two of them clear. Then, I reached to observe 17 asteroids ! Some of them were very faint, but the sky was very pure during the second night with a star limit to about 7 at the naked eye.

During the night of September 27-28,2008, I saw and measured :
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(with F/x.x and B/x.x = x.x fainter or brighter than predicted)
3578 Carestia   v14.1-14.0
1368 Numidia    v14.3-14.5    F/0.0-F/0.2 +/-0.1    MAP Object
2509 Chukotka   v14.4-14.4    B/0.2-B/0.2
1710 Gothard    v14.6-14.5    F/0.2-F/0.1
1349 Bechuana   v14.8-14.9    F/0.1-F/0.2
16960 1998 QS52  v15.0 to 15.3 variable       APOLLO 3 (H = 14.3)
6039 Parmenides v15.8 ?                             CYBELE
3794 Stenelos   v16.2 +/-0.1                        JUPITER-EAST TROJAN

During the night of September 28-29,2008, I saw and measured :
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1122 Neith          v13.4-13.3 ?  F/0.5-F/0.4 ?      MAP Object
1763 Williams      v14.2-14.1     F/0.2-F/0.1
2065 Spicer        v14.5-14.4
4169 Celsius       v14.5                                   CYBELE
4000 Hipparchus  v15.8-15.8    B/0.4-B/0.4        New MAP Object
835 Olivia           v15.9-16.0
2598 Merlin         v16.0-16.0    F/0.5-F/0.5        MAP Object
6039 Parmenides  v16.1-16.1    F/0.2-F/0.2        CYBELE
5921 1992 UL      v16.1
7572 Znokai        v16.3-16.3    F/0.7-F/0.7 +/-0.1  New MAP Object

(1122) Neith already was observed during two opposition by the MAP Observers. As it was too bright (V12.9) for the other observed asteroids, it was difficult to me to use the inter comparison of asteroid brighteness's with my C8; Then, I didn't put the measures in the MAP Database.
We must observe it for its third opposition ! It was always fainter than
0.7-0.8 mag in the past.  I wished to observe again (1368) Numidia to verify my last measures. I confirmed the lack of discrepancy of magnitude. With an averaged discrepancy of -0.07 mag, it is then "out of MAP".
 
(3578) Carestia is an object for which the MPC made recently a change of -1.5 magnitude in the H absolute magnitude. I wished to verify this high change of H magnitude. Carestia was about the new predicted V magnitude during my observations.
The story of the H magnitude of (3578) Carestia was chaotic in the past :
EMP 1989    : H 10.5
EMP 1992    : H  8.1
EMP 1998    : H 11.8
MPC 09/2008 : H 10.1
 
(4000) Hipparchus and (7572) Znokai - the new MAP objects - were compared with the four other faint asteroids of the same night and the different difficulties to observe them near the limits of my telescope permitted to identify the discrepancies of magnitude for these two objects. Maybe Roger will have the possibility to verify them ?
 
Recently, I made a list containing all the asteroids may be visible for
2008 and 2009 with my C8, from my site of the Alps mountains, notably with the possibility to detect the objects at a perihelic opposition, thank's to lists of oppositions made by Bernard Guillaud-Saumur.
Than, I observed in late September three Cybele and the Jupiter East-Trojan Stenelos which rarely are visible in my C8, among some others which I shall try to observe
during this next weekend.
Good observations for you !
Gerard  <end report>
 
Richard Bookamer reports no magnitude errors, but remains active with the observations below.
 
1449) Virtanen      2008 May 26.06667   0.0 F   MAP object
(847) Agnia           2008 Sep 22.07640    0.1 F   MAP object
(8567) 1996 HW1   2008 Sep 5.08682      0.0 F   NEO
 
My Special thanks to Gerard for his last report to the group, and the excellent contents  for both alerts 294 and 295.
 
Of note this month is an object from Prof. Pilcher's Favorable Elongation list for 2008, the Mercury
crosser 16960 1998 QS52. Now @Mv 14.6, headed to Mv 14.1 (Oct 17). This is a circumpolar object
with a moon getting brighter each passing day. Good luck to all at spotting this reported as Mv15.0 to 15.3  being variable by Gerard above.            
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/
 
AUDE Web Pages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map

 
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Issued by Gerard Faure
MAP Alert #295, October 01, 2008

Hi to all,
As Lawrence is busy, I send you this new MAP Alert which contains our analysis of the recent revision of the H magnitudes of many numbered asteroids by the MPC, on September 17,2008, for the first time since 1998 !
 
It's a great new, but it also opens a new period for the MAP, because slowly but surely, the program will reach its end, when all the revised H magnitudes of the "bright" numbered asteroids by the MPC will be accurate (for a fixed G = 0.15 ).
 
Actually, after the first analysis of the revised H magnitudes, one can say that it's not yet the case !  Below, you will find the results of our first analysis and our first thoughts to also change some things in the MAP data.

1) Analysis of the first modifications of H magnitudes by the MPC :
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I used my last updated database of the asteroids N°1 to 189407 known at the end of July 2008 and the data of a MPCORBcr.file of September 20,2008 downloaded on the MPC website.
In 3 big Excel files of Excel 2003, I put the new official H magnitudes of the MPC numbered asteroids and the ancient ones (called "2007" in this email).
 
I made the comparison of all the new and ancient H magnitudes.
After, I searched all the objects with new discrepancies > 0.2 magnitudes and all the MAP objects with their previous averaged discrepancy of H magnitude.
I put them together in a single smaller Excel file sent today to you, joined to this MAP Alert.
In this file, I made grey all the objects fainter than V16.6 at the maximum, taking into account the modifications of many H magnitudes by the MPC. These faint asteroids are numerous.

We analyzed the file and found that :
After the N°50000, the asteroids generally are very faint for the amateurs and then there are only few possible comparisons MAP-MPC, exclusively for the numbered NEA.
Among the new H magnitudes concerning the minor planets with a number greater than N°50000, there are mostly corrections for a brighter H magnitude, due to many highly false measures from the SDSS program, as noted in the MPML thread.
 
Only 5 corrections for a H magnitude > 1.0 mag fainter than those of 2007 were made on asteroids > N°50000. The MPC already corrected in the past the H magnitudes of the unnumbered minor planets before their definitive numbering, notably the NEA for which many have their H magnitude frequently corrected toward the revised H MAP magnitude of this period.
 
The corrections of H magnitudes by the MPC are not entirely made, as noted by Gareth Williams in this MPML email, because the MPC will modify them only during the corrections of the previous inaccurate orbital elements of the asteroids.
 
The record of modification of H mag by the MPC in September 2008 was -5,10 magnitudes for (156397) 2001 YK147 with H 2007 = 20,3 and H 20/09/08 = 15,2. Its maximum V magnitude increases from V22.6 to V17.5
 
The files of "Five brightest V mag" from Warner will need to be made again.
Some objects very faint will become visible in the amateur telescopes as the best example of (68000)2000 XM32 : ancient V18,7 max. (H 2007= 17,6) and new H 2008= 15,3 => #H = -2,30 NP => V16.5 maximum.
 
Among the MAP objects, there is no modification of H mag by the MPC, for the objects up to F/0.5 or B/0.5, expect for :
(6153) Hershey H 2007 = 11,5; H 09/2008 = 12,7; # H = 1,20; old M1=F/0.5?; M1 new =B/0.7?
(5208) Royer H 2007 = 11,6; H 09/2008 = 12,5; # H = 0,90; Mc = F/0.3c; M1 new = F/1.2?
 
On the 457 objets of the MAP, only 4 objects with a difference of H MAP < 1.1 mag have been modified by the MPC, while 10 objects on the 19 with # H MAP > 1.0 mag have been modified !
No MAP object with # H MAP > 1.0 mag seen during a single opposition has been taken in account, but all those published (3 oppositions and more) or with at least 2 observed oppositions have their H mag modified, apart (5641) McCleese may be forgotten.
But, for 4 of the 10 objects with a H MAP difference > 1.0 mag, only 4 H mags revised by the MAP correspond to the new H mag of the MPC.
We think that the MPC used our list of objects highly clashing - put on the MPML - to locate the objects, but after the MPC made its H modifications according to the measures of its own internal database. As the MPC never answered to our emails, we shall never have the confirmation, but certainly it was the case. The MAP list was useful !
 
The MPC seems to have processed by elimination of the very bad photometric measures, but effectively has not yet used a new method more efficient for the obtaining of accurate H magnitudes.
The MAP magnitudes certainly have a small inaccuracy, but for (1444) Pannonia, the MAP difference was 2.6 mag and the one from the MPC equal to 2.0 mag.
Then Pannonia is not removed out of the MAP because it has yet a difference of magnitude equal to F/0.6 which needs to be confirmed or to be refuted.
2) General strategy :
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Actually, we have to continue to do measures because :
1) Nearly 400 MAP objects had not be observed during at least 3 oppositions, then we have no definitive results for them.
 
2) It's not sure that the modifications from the MPC are good (unidentified false measures or bad color type put on other measures) and it will be interesting to verify the objects concerned by the MPC modifications, notably the new objects concerned by apparent high discrepancies between old and new H magnitudes of the MPC.
 
3) New conflicting objets may be found among asteroids not yet observed by the MAP.
 
The best is to keep the MAP database with the official H magnitudes "2007" for the included objects and to compare the evolution of the H MPC magnitudes with regard to our database containing the original H magnitudes.
For the next "new" MAP objects, the H magnitude used for the first measure will be the basis for the future.
 
It would be interesting to obtain from Bernard Guillaud-Saumur new tables 2009 of MAP opposition objects and lists of conjunctions of LONEOS stars with the MAP objects and with MPC objects having a high modification of H magnitude.
 
One MAP member would follow the changes of H magnitudes by the MPC at least one time by month, at each batch of the MPC, to obtain the historic evolution of the modifications of the H Mags and to permit the connection of eventual old MAP measures with the used H magnitudes of this time.... but who ?
 
We have to analyze and to do measures with the new method from R. Miles and R.Dymock based on the the stellar Catalog CMC14 and the Astrometrica software modified by H.Raab. This work will permit to attract again CCD observers. We hope to do it soon.

3) Future Updates of the MAP Database :
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In the MAP Database, I shall add a line by object to put the most recent H of the MPC and the new H difference of the MAP.
Each MAP measure will be computed again with regard to the H MPC 2007 for the old MAP objects, to keep the historic differences of measures and to permit the increase of the accuracy of the MAP measures.
Then the comparison with the new H magnitudes of the MPC will be made during a second calculation made on the averaged H difference 2007, to obtain the updated averaged difference of MAP H magnitude.
When the revised H magnitudes of the MAP will correspond to the MPC magnitudes, at + or - 0,1 or 0,2 mag, then we shall "close" the object and shall consider it "out of the MAP".
 
If possible, we shall publish on the Minor Planet Bulletin the measures of the objects seen at least during 3 oppositions (and 3 observers, if there will be sufficiently observers) and which will continue to have an interesting discrepancy of magnitude ( # H MAP - H MPC > 0,2 mag ), but also a list of the minor planets for which the MPC and the MAP will obtain the same revised H magnitudes.

4) Observations :
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It will be also necessary to know the MPC H magnitude used to the observations and the measures, because the absolute magnitudes of the MPC will continuously change.

Best wishes
Gerard Faure and Lawrence Garrett
 
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
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MAP Alert #294, September 26, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers:
 
This past week, Gerard Faure and myself have sought to present information on the recent posting to the minor mailing list topic "Huge O-C in magnitudes", and its relationship to this program. Gerard has composed a review  for readers below. 
 
A second MAP Alert will with an analysis and future of MAP will follow.
 
The changes underway will not  place "suggested revised H values" out of our reach in the present. But with more advancement in the years to come, these changes will begin to limit the number of researchers who can reach the limits in which useful work can be achieved. Such progress is present in perhaps every area of amateur research. But perhaps as one door closes, another will open, time will tell here.
 
 
Gerards Message:
 
Greetings All:
 
Perhaps our  MAP members and readers of the MAP Alerts recently read a thread named "Huge O-C in magnitudes" on the Minor Planet Mailing List, but for those who are not on this list, there are some interesting facts in this discussion, but also a big change on the future H magnitudes furnished by the Minor Planet Center.
 
Following the "discovery" of a high discrepancy of more than 3 magnitudes for the minor planet (135304) 2001 SA249 by Reiner Stoss, other examples were given on the MPML, notably for many new numbered asteroids - mainly faint - but also the case of (1444) Pannonia, well known by the MAP Members. Alan Cahill reported his own observations of this object in 2003 and after Gerard noted that (1444) Pannonia was the MAP Object with the higgest discrepancy of H magnitude and that our results were published in the Minor
Planet Bulletin 10/2007 (Volume 34, Number 4, pages 95-99)
Gerard also furnished a list of the 30 highest differences of H magnitude found in the years 1996-2006 by the MAP, among the "bright" asteroids followed by the amateurs.
 
As frequently in the past for the MAP on various lists, some septic MPML readers reacted and wrote that the causes of the discrepancies of H magnitudes were perhaps the significant magnitude variation associated with rotation, but also with the change of the phase angle or the aspect angle from an opposition to another one.
Gerard answered that "In a personal analysis of all the 2658 lightcurves known on October 15,2006, I only found 5 known minor planets with a light amplitude equal or higher than 2.0 magnitude". the variability certainly is not the main cause of the discrepancy of magnitude for the asteroids with a high discrepancy of H magnitude.
These 5 objects were NEA, then small asteroids. At the time of the analysis, 90% of the asteroids with known light curves had at most or less than 0.3 magnitude of maximum half-amplitude, and 97%
less than 0.5 mag !" These results were published in the file "MAP REPORT 1996-2006_ENGLISH.xls" put on the AUDE-MAP Website.
In the part "analysis N°4 : Impact of the natural variability of the minorplanets" of this file, it was noted :
 
"The natural variability of the asteroids is not a crucial problem for the
MAP because :
1) An asteroid doesn't reach its maximum amplitude of light at each
opposition, due to the different vision angle of this body from Earth, from an opposition to the next one.
2) When it's the case, they are at the maximum or the minimum just during a short time, one time by entire rotation, the average of the rotation period of the minor planets being about 9 hours.
 
3) It's only the half-amplitude of light which has a possible impact for the MAP. 90% of the asteroids with known light curves have at most or less than 0.3 magnitude of maximum half-amplitude !
4) For the 10% of asteroids more variable, the maximum half-amplitude of light is problematic only during some oppositions, at the moments of
maximums and minimums of light...then in average less than 1 observation made on 6 to 8 !
 
5) With the computation of the average of all the measures made for an asteroid, the statistical effect reduces or eliminates the impact of mesurements made near a maximum or a minimum of light.
Then, the natural variability of the asteroids has generally only a small repercussion on the MAP objects !"
 
Despite these facts, the discussion continued, but thanks to the
intervention from Alan HARRIS, Senior Research Scientist at the Space
Science Institute and expert in the asteroid photometry, our advice lastly was admitted.
 
Alan HARRIS wrote :
"I recently examined the Light curve Data Base (LCDB), maintained by myself, Warner and Pravec, and can essentially confirm the comments by Gerard Faure
 
My examination of the LCDB is perhaps more critical than his in that
I eliminated any results of low reliability or exaggerated claimed
light curve amplitude (e.g. from a few obviously discordant observations). I found only ten asteroids which can be confirmed to exhibit, at low phase angle, amplitudes greater than 1.5 magnitudes.
Here is a paragraph I wrote,
from a paper, in final review for publication in Icarus, commenting on the limits of shape variation of "rubble pile" asteroids:
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Examining the Asteroid Light curve Database (LCDB) maintained by Warner et al  (2008), we find, out of more than 3,000 light curve entries, only ten asteroids have observed light curves with confirmed amplitude of variation equal to or exceeding 1.5 magnitudes. The eleventh largest amplitude, (433) Eros at 1.49 magnitudes, has a well measured shape of about 3.0:1 elongation, exactly the limit we find for a non-rotating rubble pile (Eros itself is fairly rapidly rotating, so is not really at its limit). Among the ten with still larger amplitudes, up to a maximum of about 2.0 magnitudes, two are small, super-fast rotators (P < 2.2 h) with some tensile strength and thus not rubble piles subject to the elongation limit we are discussing; three are quite fast rotators, like Eros, with periods < 7 h and thus able to sustain greater elongation due to the additional  centrifugal force sustaining their shape; and four were observed at large solar phase angle, with amplitudes that would likely be less than 1.5, or even 1.2, magnitude at low phase angle, thus are not likely more elongate than the 3:1 limit. The one remaining case is (5247) Krylov, a very slow rotating asteroid (P » 81.5 h) and therefore essentially “non-rotating” as
far as centrifugal forces are concerned. Its measured light curve amplitude is difficult to determine exactly, since it is a non-principal axis rotator  (“tumbling”), but appears to be right around 1.5 magnitude at 15°-19° solar phase angle. Thus it is likely no more elongate than Eros and within the
3:1 elongation limit we have calculated.
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Thus, even aside from issues of rubble pile or not, only around ten out of 3,000 asteroids with measured light curves have amplitudes exceeding 1.5 magnitudes. I would further add that Jewitt, along with his students Mann (not a man) and Lacerda have found that a set of only several (less than 10) photometric measurements separated in time by more than the presumed but unknown rotation period of an asteroid suffice to pin down the mean magnitude and amplitude of variation to within 0.1 magnitude or so. So I would have to say that light curve variation hardly even enters into the uncertainty budget of an H value derived from estimates of magnitude made from astro metric surveys alone. Yes, some of them really are that bad.
Plus, a handful of gross errors, even due to typography or other
problems not related to measurement, out of tens of thousands of objects, isn't bad. Both the surveys and the MPC have other priorities, which I respect even if they aren't my own.
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This email is very interesting for the MAP, because lastly it has the
confirmation by an expert in the domain of the asteroid photometry, that the variability is not a problem for the measure of the H magnitude, when sparse V measures are made, as in the MAP.
Of course, the MAP also his concerned sometimes by an inaccuracy of the measures and the difficulties to join all the measures, but we were more careful than the MPC up to now.
The thread ended with the email from Gareth WILLIAMS, the manager of the MPC, who announced the BIG NEW which is THE FUTURE UPDATE OF THE H MAGNITUDES BY THE MPC :
"..As of earlier this month, we have abandoned use of an official list for H magnitudes for numbered mps. The H values will be recomputed whenever new orbits are published, in the same fashion as unnumbered mps.
As part of the MPC preparation procedure, we publish new orbits for numbered minor planets that are off the prediction from the previous orbit by more than 1 or that have significant arc extensions. The batch of MPCs currently in production has orbits for 4302 previously-numbered objects: " most have newly-computed H values (which in some cases are the same as the already-published values)...
Our previous ability to keep the numbered orbits as up to date as for the unnumbered objects has been constrained by an official IAU agreement, which has been widely ignored by other groups."
It is a very good new for the asteroid science and the observers of minor planets, but this is also a MAJOR NEW for the MAP which tried up to now, as Astdys, to obtain rectified H magnitudes for the asteroids with false absolute magnitudes.
This new fact induced a thought for the future of the MAP program.
This reflexion was proceeded by an analysis of the last modifications of H magnitudes by the MPC in its batch of September 17
The results of this analysis and of the thought will be given in a next MAP Alert.
 
Lawrence Garrett and Gerard Faure
 
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/
 
AUDE Web Pages
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http://www.astrosurf.com/map
 
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MAP Alert 293, September 21, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers:
 
Our first report of the current lunation features a faint object in suspected magnitude error from Roger Harvey.
 
 
Sep. 20, 2178 Kazakhstania       2:04UT – 3:15 UT  F/0.7F @ 15.5 Mv.
 
News of revised H values has been a large talk on the minor planet mailing list as of late. Gerard and Myself are putting together a statement to cover the  information and its impact on this program. Look for this posting soon.
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/
 
AUDE Web Pages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map

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MAP Alert #292, September 11, 2008
See attachment page @ http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/id11.html
 
Greetings MAP Observers!
 
Letters, observations and milestones highlight this end of the current lunation MAP alert.

In order of date received.
 
 
September 8, 
Tom Laskowski writes
Hello Lawrence,
 
I was fortunate enough to have a clear night this weekend and got a chance to observe 8567 1996 HW1.  I only planned to observe the nova in Scorpius last night, taking only my 5-inch Mak., but I also took a finder chart for 1996 HW1 just in case, not really expecting to see it.
 
At 0300 UT Sept. 8 it passed south of the star TYC 609-441-1 or  PPM 116523 which is listed as being mag. 11.16.  I noted that 1996 HW1 was pretty easy to see despite the moonlight and hazy sky.  I estimated it to be about 0.5 mag fainter than TYC 609-441-1 which would put it about mag. 11.6 which is much brighter than the predicted 12.4.
 
This was my # 1420.  Hopefully I'll get another chance to re-observe it later this month with a good sky and my 11-inch. End report>
 
 
Andrew Salthouse writes September 9:
 
Colleagues:

Saturday had heavy rains but Sunday was very clear and fine for observing.  Monday started out well, but I had to wait until 11pm EDT local time for moon set, by which time clouds had rolled in.  I waited for 1 ½ hours, and by good fortune by 12:30am or so the clouds had dispersed and I was able to observe.

 First, the good news is that I reached an important milestone of 20,000 visual magnitude estimates of asteroids on Monday night (technically early Tuesday morning).  My 20,000th observation was of 8567.  I also observed this asteroid again a ½ hour later (the motion was quite noticeable), and I ended up with the following statistics at the end of the night:

Total lifetime asteroids observed:         1,937

Total asteroid oppositions observed:     6,529

Total asteroid observations made:      20,004

My first observation was of 1 Ceres (more than 40 years ago), and my last was of 8567 (which is listed below).

Second, I have the data on 7043 and 8567.  I observed these as follows:

Asteroid     date           pred Mv    obsv Mv

7043 Godart

Sept 4.1146    14.2         14 ¾

Sept 4.1667    14.2         14 ¾

Sept 5.1583    14.2         14 ¾

Sept 8.1062    14.3         14 ¾

(8567) 1996 HW1

Sept 8.1771    12.4         12 ¼ - ½

Sept 8.2271    12.4         12 ¼ - ½

Sept 8.2375    12.4         12 ¼

Sept 9.1958    12.4         12 ½ ?

Sept 9.2171    12.4         12 ½ ?

 

I have placed question marks after the last two observations because there were thin clouds and haze that introduced some uncertainty into the observations.  My impression on the first night (Sept 7/8) was that 8567 might be a bit brighter than predicted.  These are visual estimates and therefore not particularly accurate, of course.

It is cloudy now, and unless it miraculously clears up, I am done for this lunar cycle.

Warm regards,

Andrew Salthouse> End report:

Quite the totals for sure,wow, and still going to boot.<LG>

 

September 9

Fortunately, before the arrival of the bad weather and the full moon, I
observed a last time, on Monday morning.

I saw 7 seven asteroids :

1368 Numidia    v14.3-14.3   F/0.1-F/0.1  Old MAP object
5985 1942 RJ    v14.5-14.6   F/0.4-F/0.6  Old MAP object
1930 Lucifer    v14.7-14.7   F/0.3-F/0.3 but known variable
1791 Patsayev   v15.2-15.2  
588 Achilles   v15.4-15.5   B/0.2-B/0.1  Old MAP object + Jupiter-Trojan East
4686 Maisaca    v15.5-15.5   F/0.2-F/0.2
3709 Polypoites v16.1                     Jupiter-Trojan East


With these new measures, (1368) Numidia has its averaged difference under the half-amplitude of variability. Then this object now is out of the MAP. Nevertheless, have you recently or in the past observed this object, because my incertainty of magnitude was about 0.2 mag for this low object over the horizon and without a brighter comparison ?

(588) Achilles was just with a small difference of magnitude and its
averaged discrepancy decreases for this second opposition.

(5985) 1942 RJ was more faint than the previous observations in August 2008.

(1930) Lucifer is near the low border of the MAP, but with an incertainty of +/-0.1 mag and a known variability of 0.22 to 0.44 mag, the observed difference of 0.2/0.3 mag is perhaps the variability.

Good week !
Gerard


MAPMEASURES08-09-2008.htm  attachment sent by Gerard Faure
 
September 10
Gerard forwards this as well:
 
Congratulations for your 20000 asteroid observations !!!! (Andrew)

I hope that one day, your name will be on an asteroid !!
You made a very impressive total of observations on asteroids and this fact should be rewarded !!
We also have to appreciate your high activity for the MAP !

Thank you also for your measures !

Cheers
Gerard>
 
What else? I noticed two attachments in the last MAP. It seems yahoo keeps scanning and attaching forever  while I compose these alerts. I will check the alerts after sending make sure they are indeed
included and re-send if not. Yet more computer fun.  Looking forward to clearing October skies.
 
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/
 
AUDE Web Pages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map
 

MAP ALERTS 2008
 
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MAP Alert #291, September 4, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers:
 
Reports from Gerard Faure and Andrew Salthouse follow up, highlight this September MAP alert.
 
While I usually leave my comments till last, I wish to comment on the new header line above right away. You will notice our attachment page URL following the MAP alert line. Attachments are becoming more common these days, and a webpage for these is now at that URL.
This is so readers coming to the site will be able to know attachments were issued with an alert, and those seeing the attachment page will be able to locate and read the alert.  And we can get to them as well.
 
 
 
 
Gerard writes September 2:
Hi to all,

Despite sparse thin clouds or waves of clouds, I reached to observe during two second parts of nights of the last week-end :

1) On Saturday morning August 30,2008
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  5985 1942 RJ     v14.4-14.4      F/0.1-F/0.1   MAP Object
  1930 Lucifer     v14.6-14.5 
  3928 Randa       v14.6-14.6
  7043 Godart      v14.7-UMv 14.9  F/0.3-F/0.5   NEW MAP object
   439 Ohio        v14.9-14.8      B/0.0-B/0.1   MAP Object
  2116 Mtskheta    v15.2-15.1

1) On Sunday morning August 31,2008
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  1645 Waterfield  v14.2
  2527 Gregory     v14.8
  7043 Godart      v14.8-UMv 15.0  F/0.6-F/0.4   MAP Object
164400 2005 GN59   v15.5 to >16.0  variable      Apollo
  1868 Thersites   v16.1                         Jupiter-trojan East

I join the updated file.htm of the MAP measures made since the last update of the MAP Database for its inclusion in the next MAP Alert.
(7043)Godart is a NEW MAP object observed two times fainter than predicted.
I also put UMv measures because in its area, the catalogs USNO, GSC and Tycho often give the same V magnitudes for the stars.

(5985)1942 RJ is an old MAP object already seen in 1998; During my 2008 observations, I saw 5985 just a few fainter than predicted

(439)Ohio also is an old MAP object seen this time about the predicted
magnitude. The revision of the data saw that the B/0.9 measure and perhaps the B/0.5 measure certainly were too high. With the removed B/0.9 measure, the averaged difference of magnitude passes under the half-amplitude of the known light curve; Then, Ohio may be put out of the MAP objects.

Apparently, the weather will be bad here up to the nearly the full moon. Then, perhaps I shall not observe before the next lunation ?


Good week !
Gerard> End report
 
I wanted to do a quick follow-up to Gerard’s message, which I received yesterday.  Last night I had the opportunity to observe several asteroids, including 7043 Godart.  I observed it twice in order to confirm the motion.  The predicted mag was 14.2, but it seemed to be about 14 ¾ or about 0.5 to 0.6 fainter than predicted.  Thus I confirm Gerard’s finding that this is a new MAP object about ½ mag fainter than prediction.  I will try again tonight.  I have also observed 3928 and 1645 recently and found no discrepancies.

Andrew> end report

Both Gerard and Andrew have done well  with 7043 Godart  and many other objects this month.

More observations needed on the reported MAP objects.

My vacation hopes of many asteroid has ended with just 5 spotted, and another object,"glad I did not retire from MAP" :-) you have not see that one?  Unexpected heat has ruined faint asteroid observing but not satellite viewing. Not much to to report, but I did watch a rocket stage tumbling wildly in my 20x80mms.This 8th to 10th magnitude object is listed as debris, but should be under not a bad show. This started quite faint and variable, become bright and constant, and then vairable once again. Not a bad 2.5 minute show at all. Back up observing keeps me in the game.

Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com

MAP Alert Homepage 
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AUDE Web Pages
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MAP Alert #290, August 28, 2008
ALSO SEE ATTACHMENTS PAGE FOR THIS ALERT
 
Greetings MAP Observers!
 
I'm minutes from clear skies, so pass along Gerard's message of today, current MAP objects
now visible, call for observations for these asteroids!
 
<The brightest actual targets among the MAP objects, classified by date of
opposition are :

6670 Wallach
1549 Mikko
6422 Akagi
5917 1991 NG
1368 Numidia
5985 1942 RJ
1122 Neith< End Gerards message
 
I have also attached a file for MAP objects visible to the end of 2008!    
 
I will close with words passed along by another MAP reader with an asteroid named for him
this year. John Fletcher with 6137 Johnfletcher  named in June, congratulations John!
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/
 
AUDE Web Pages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map

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MAP Alert #289, August 24, 2008 
ALSO SEE ATTACHMENTS PAGE FOR THIS ALERT
 
Greetings MAP Observers!
 
The return of a past member to the ranks of MAP, news of a list member having an asteroid named for him, also observation details highlight this late August edition of the MAP alerts.
 
First, let welcome back Tom Laskowski @ tmlask@att.net 
Tom Writes:
I'm now at 1417 asteroids observed visually; my last observation made on June 3, 2008 from the Texas Star Party of 1679 Nevanlinna.

Great to see Richard Bookamer becoming the newest member of the Millennium Club!  Congratulations to him!>
 
One of the world highest visual totals Tom is hardly a newbie, his sharp eyes once  again have MAP in focus.  Glad I read my junk mail Tom!
 
Second, asteroid 183294 Langbroek now orbits the Sun. This was named in honor of my friend and SpaceWatch asteroid discover Dr. Marco Langbroek of the the Netherlands. Strangely the citation did not mention the discovery!? Boooo, what an error to leave this out.
 
His citation follows:
183294) Langbroek = 2002 TB382
Discovered 2002 Oct. 9 by NEAT at Palomar.
Marco Langbroek (b. 1970) is a Dutch archaeologist and amateur astronomer whose main interests lie in meteor astronomy. He is an avid meteor observer, active within the Dutch Meteor Society. The name was suggested by S. Kürti.
 
 
Andrew Salthouse relays his late July and early August observations, listed now with skies getting dark and moonless again.
6670
July 19-20  F/0.7
July 21-22 F/0.7
July 24-25 F/0.6
July 24-25 F/0.6
 
5917
Aug 7-8 F/0.5
Aug 7-8 F/0.5
Aug 8-9 F/0.6
Aug 8-9 F/0.6
Aug 9-10 F/0.5
 
Gerard Faure writes of his own success yesterday
Hi to all,
Despite the short time between dusk and the moonrise (1 hour) on late Saturday evening, I planned to observe some asteroids.
I reached to observe four of the seven planned targets :
5917 1991 NG   v14.9-14.9  F/0.7-F/0.7 +/-0.1
6403 Steverin  v15.6-15.7  F/0.2-F/0.3
4937 Lintott   v15.8-15.9  F/0.6-F/0.7 +/-0.1 (4 measures)
7175 1988 TN   v16.0-15.9 
Then my measures confirm the observations from Andrew for 5917 and from John for 4937 ! 6403 and 7175 were used to compare the MAP objects.
I put the new data in the MAP Database and made a small file HTML with the data for the 4 asteroids observed since the last update of the MAP Database; This file is joined to this file. I have attached a file from Gerard as well
Good week> End report
 
For a change I have an asteroid to report myself. I also fought
the early moonrise in hopes of spotting 5917 1991 NG, but did
add a new asteroid on my total's, 1043 Bette. With dark
skies and vacation time I hope to add a few more soon.
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
MAP Alert Homepage
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/
 
AUDE Web Pages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map

 

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MAP Alert#288, August 11, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers:
 
A brief pre-vacation report from Andrew Salthouse and more web page news highlight this Monday's MAP alert.
 
Andrew reports:
 
I'm taking advantage of Lawrence's (private) email to send out a quick note.  I found two asteroids in magnitude error during the lunar cycle ending this week.
6670 Wallach and (5917) 1991 NG were both noticeably fainter than predicted, the former by about 3/4 mag and the latter at least 1/2 mag.  Details will have to follow later, as I must be off to work now.  My family and I will be in Germany/Austria for about 10 days starting this coming weekend.  If I have time I will send the details before the trip, otherwise I'll talk to you all when I get back.
I'm now up to 19,949 lifetime visual magnitude estimates; I hope to hit
20,000 sometime in September.
Regards,
Andrew Salthouse > end report
The asteroids above were predicted in GUIDE 8.0 @ 14.3 and 14.2, so these are very faint. Even find them "missing" after the bright moon will result it a positive observation.
 
The current MAP alerts are now @
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze105aij/map/
I can't wonder if improvements have been made at this site, as pages load MUCH faster when doing the HTML, and the alerts seem better looking. I still need to add  this alert and get the rest of the site complete.
 
One such posting that will appear at the above URL and the ALPO main pages follows. An unfortunate error might direct readers to these sites explained as below.

Greetings Asteroid Readers:  August 10, 2008
 
 For those of you who might have found this information under the Google results for “Lawrence Garrett Asteroids”, or “ Asteroids and how to observe them”  let me catch you up to date.
 
On the date above, I was upgrading my personal home web page and noticed a new feature, a site and web search bar was now possible. So I typed in my own name plus asteroids to see just what might come up. To my surprise, I was directed to Google, and a book published under my name that I was working for under Springer Verlag.  
I ended my work on this project in December of 2007, and no book of this title is forthcoming, under my name. I assume Springer will hire a new author for this book. I have informed them of this error, and wish Springer the best in getting this important book to the public.
Rather then offer my text for sale, I plan to offer it here for free in a series of articles and instruction, much shorter then the above planned book form.  In keeping with the theme of the A.L.P.O., personal  instruction  will be offered to those who require it.
Current plans include an article “The planets of DAWN”, aimed at getting new observers to established Astronomy clubs to visually observe the targets of the current DAWN probe, asteroids Ceres and Vesta.
Sending new observers well ahead of the curve to clubs to observe  these asteroids is the main theme. No club in your area, establishing your own “DAWN Observatory” follows. All the basic information needed from optical requirements (binoculars and small telescopes),  star  chart production, nightly tracking of Vesta and Ceres will be covered.  This basic asteroid observing project is an excellent introduction to astronomy, and finding sky objects WITHOUT the aid of  expensive computer guided telescopes.>
 
I have searched the posting of this book, and there are many. I hope few order it, but instead read my statement and take up the DAWN project in its place.
 
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
 
AUDE Web Pages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map
 
 
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MAP Alert #287, August 6, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers!
 
Roger Harvey reports a single asteroid on two nights
in suspected magnitude error.
 
August 4, 3h21m + Aug. 5 3h-3h40m
4884 Matsuyama @ Mv 15.6, F/0.5
 
Thanks for the report Roger, its nice at least someone
has clear skies, rather then thunderstorms and flood watches everyday.
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
 
AUDE WebPages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map
 

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MAP Alert #286, August 3, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers!
 
A call for observations for asteroid 4937 Lintott highlight this August "visible header" MAP alert.
 
John Fletcher writes with suspected magnitude error observation for asteroid 4937 Lintott:
 
 
Hi Lawrence.
Asteroid No. 4937 Lintott   Todays MPCorb.dat says this one is 15.2v
tonight ?
 
Regards from John.
COD J93
OBS John Fletcher
MEA John Fletcher
TEL 0.25-m f/5.5 Schmidt-Cassegrain + CCD
ACK MPCReport file updated 2008.08.02 23:11:27
AC2 jfmto@blueyonder.co.uk
NET USNO-A2.0
04937 C2008 08 02.92359 21 41 14.50 +08 15 10.4 15.9 V J93
04937 C2008 08 02.92782 21 41 14.25 +08 15 11.8 15.9 V J93
04937 C2008 08 02.93205 21 41 14.00 +08 15 12.3 15.9 V J93
John Fletcher F.R.A.S.
Mount Tuffley Observatory. Code J93>  end report
 
This places 4937 Lintott about 0.7 magnitude fainter then predicted,
and currently fading making this a CCD object for observers. The MPC notes a lightcurve amplitude of .22 for this object.
 
Richard Miles of the BBA has sent Gerard Faure and myself
news on progress on measuring asteroid magnitudes, using
Astrometrica. Very good news in measuring magnitudes, but
this should be best presented in an article in the minor planet bulletin, rather then my own forward. The methods seems very good, with results in real-time as Richard quotes. We will await
a complete review to be published by Richard on his progress.
 
Another Richard Miles message finding 2005 RC35 was posted
to the MPML after my call for observations. He indeed was found
2005 RC35 to be about 0.3 magnitude brighter then predicted.
My own planned observation were clouded out after nightfall.
 
 
A "visible header alert" at last, thanking Marco and Richard
for the requested test results forward to the group.  
 
Other news. I have forward Gerard's MAP work to Larry Owens
for posting at the ALPO webpages. His back log is great so
I suspect this will take a while for become posted. In the mean time  I have to work on my own web publishing so I can again begin posting to the web myself.
 
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Assistant Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
AUDE WebPages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map
 
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MAP ALERT #285, July 26, 2008
ALSO SEE ATTACHMENTS PAGE FOR THIS ALERT
 
As posted by Gerard Faure, MAP database manager
Hi to all,

Exceptionally, I send to you this MAP Alert to the announcement of the update of the MAP Database !
This update of the MAP Database contains 469 asteroids, then 27 more than the previous database on June 30,2008.
and the recapitulative list of the MAP Database is at :
http://astrosurf.com/aude/map/MAP_DATABASE_recap.htm

...but I join them to this mail. It's a zipped Excel file for the MAP
Database and a zipped file.htm for the Recapitulative list.
This MAP database nows contains 5138 measures (previously 4991 measures),  than 147 complementary measures, mostly made by Gérard Faure, Roger Harvey  et Andrew Salthouse.
In addition to the measures of the 27 new asteroids entered in the MAP  database, many new measures have been made for 37 old MAP objets.  On the total of 469 asteroids of the database, 84 of them (17% of the  total) now have their original difference of magnitude explained by the  natural light  variability or by some inaccuracies of measures and then now have no need  of new measures, TANDIS QUE for about two tens objects, the MAP already has  a good estimate of the difference of H magnitude. The revised H magnitude  has been published for 16 asteroids in the Minor Planet Bulletin 34-4.
On the 385 asteroids interested by new measures, the actual magnitude  differences are :
< 0,3 mag for 45 asteroids
0,3 mag for 35 asteroids
0,4 mag for 57 asteroids
0,5 mag for 71 asteroids
0,6 mag for 51 asteroids
0,7 mag for 36 asteroids
0,8 mag for 25 asteroids
0,9 mag for 22 asteroids
1,0 mag for 10 asteroids
 
1,0 mag for 12 asteroids
indefined mag. 5 asteroids
For 213 of them (45% of the total), the active lightcurve makers have permitted the knowledge of the data of asteroid lightcurve amplitudes.
A part of the 469 objects of the MAP already have been observed on some  oppositions :
0 opposition for 2 asteroids
1 opposition for 335 asteroids
2 oppositions for 95 asteroids
3 oppositions for 25 asteroids
4 oppositions for 8 asteroids
5 oppositions for 2 asteroids
6 oppositions for 2 asteroids
Nearly one hundred of MAP asteroids already observed during two oppositions  wait their third observed opposition to obtain probably the definitive  confirmation of their H magnitude difference and the publication of the  results !
Then we shall be very interested by your new measures of the MAP objects in  the future !
Good summer !
Gerard

Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
AUDE WebPages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map
 
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MAP Alert #284, July 21, 2008
Greetings MAP Observers!
Recent postings on the Minor Planet Mailing List highlight this call for observations  MAP alert.
 
Message 20855 from Lance Benner states recent radar observations of 2005 RC34  suggest this has a rough surface (perhaps an E type asteroid) and asks it any photometry is planned.
 
Message 20856 from Vishu Reddy states "we will be observing 2005 RC34 from NASA IRTF  to see if this is an E type object".
 
Message 20857 From Richard Miles write "Initial checks do not indicate that it exhibits a  high-amplitude lightcurve"
Such a series beggs to have visual sightings to confirm its predicted magnitude to complete  the coverage. A long time goal of mine to have so many methods complete with visual observations, always clouded out, or otherwise foiled again.
 
Tonight finds 2005 RC34 in a dark sky around 1h40mUT with the moon at -5 degrees.  I will try to check this out, predicted MPC value Mv 14.5. Anything other information  from readers?
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
 
AUDE WebPages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map

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Greetings MAP Observers!
 
MAP Alert #283, July 15, 2008
 
News from Andrew Salthouse and Gerard Faure and other brief news highlight this mid July MAP alert.
 
First lets review Andrew's message:
 
July 9, 2008
Hello all,
I wanted to report on some recent observations, many of which involve magnitude discrepancies of at least 0.3mag.
First, however, my email address has changed to: ajsalthouse@comcast.net due  to my former ISP being bought out.
 
I have observed roughly a dozen asteroids since the last full moon, and half  of those involve apparent discrepancies in magnitude. My observations follow (NV means "not visible"):
Object Mo UTDate Pred Obsvd
1598 July 3.1632 14.7 NV
3.2014 14.7 NV
8.1667 14.5 14.8
8.2153 14.5 14.7
9.1319 14.4 14.5
9.2257 14.4 14.5
1836 June 28.1806 14.0 NV
28.2118 14.0 NV
July 3.1493 13.8 14.5
3.1944 13.8 14.5
8.1562 13.7 14.5
9.1215 13.7 14.5
1914 June 25.1424 14.3 NV
25.1910 14.3 NV
28.1458 14.3 14.8
28.1944 14.3 14.8
29.1597 14.3 14.6
July 3.1319 14.3 14.8
2511 June 22.1458 14.4 NV
22.1792 14.4 NV
25.1562 14.3 NV
25.1944 14.3 NV
28.1597 14.4 NV
28.1979 14.4 NV
2524 June 28.1736 14.4 NV
28.2083 14.4 NV
July 3.1562 14.3 NV
3.1979 14.3 NV
8.1632 14.1 NV
8.2118 14.1 NV
9.1250 14.1 14.7
9.1736 14.1 14.7
9.2292 14.1 14.7
5749 July 8.1945 14.5 NV
8.2257 14.5 NV
9.1806 14.4 14.7
9.2326 14.4 14.7
Please note the following: all times are rounded to the nearest 5min (eg, 5,  10, 15 min past the hour, etc.)
Since almost all observations occurred  between 11pm and 1am local time EDT, some times repeat. Note that not one  of these was observed on the first or second try. 2511 was abandoned after  6 attempts. I was ready to abandon 2524 after 6 failures, but I met with  success on the night of July 7/8 (last night). All were fainter than  predicted, and I must presume that 2511 is at least 1/2 a magnitude fainter  than predicted, or I'm sure I would have seen it. 2524 was the most  southerly of the targeted objects. I do not pretend that my estimates are  accurate, but they should be directionally correct. At a minimum, 1836 and   2524 are quite a bit fainter than predicted; the others might be explained
by the observing conditions. Of course, the southerly declinations and the  high humidity this time of year are a hindrance both to finding these  objects and to accurately estimating their brightness. 1598 and 2524 are  near Jupiter, though not in the same telescopic field.
Has anyone else noted similar discrepancies? I wanted to give you all an opportunity to confirm or deny these observations before the moonlight becomes a problem. I will attempt to follow up on a couple of these myself  if the weather permits. Looking forward to hearing from you,  Andrew Salthouse <end report>
 
Gerard responds in a personal message below
Hi Andrew and Lawrence, July 12, 2008

Again, I was silent since some months, but not totally inactive. I shall do  a report of my observations tomorrow.
This evening, I just finished a French article on the possibilities of
astronomical observations in Chile.  My next goal will be to do my report to the MAP and after the sending of  the MAP Database already updated up to the beginning of July 2008  I shall include your last sure objects. Now, I look at if I have data for your objects.
I verified and found one object in the MAP Database, among your new objects :
 
5749 1991 FV already observed during 2 oppositions by the MAP Members, with
F/1.3 mag of error. Observations in 1998 (2 observers) and 2002 (1 observer)
Your measures are for a third opposition, but the difference of magnitude
is this time very low (F/0.2 mag). It will be necessary to observe again this object.
My asteroid bases, recently updated (not updated only for the two last  Harris catalogs of 2007 and 2008, by lack of free time), give :
1598 Paloque no known light curve and never observed by me
1836 Komarov " " " but observed by me in 1998, without mag
error
1914 Hartbeespoortdam " " " and never observed by me
2511 Patterson " " " " " " " "
2524 Budovicium Per.10.081-10.076 h / var. 0.16-0.17 mag and never
observed
5749 1991 FV no known light curve and never observed by me
Alas, I shall no possibility to observe again before the end of August, due  to the Moon after the bad weather this week-end and to the next holidays in the West of France.
Soon
Gerard <end report>
 
Gerard follows with his large report on observations from July 13, 2008
Hi to all,

Despite a bad spring here and busy weeks, I reached to observe a few,  during five nights, in April, June and July 2008, at first with my CCD camera, and visually in June and July. I observed many old MAP objects notably to increase the observed oppositions for each of these objects. I also imaged some "standard" asteroids (half-light curve < 0.08 mag) and the  open cluster M67 to continue my tests stopped since more than one year.
 
Then, the report of all the observations are below :
with TMu = Unfiltered measures with Tycho star comparisons
with V.... = predicted V mag, when measures not yet treated.

Night of April 25-26, 2008 with C8F and Sbig ST6 :
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190 Ismene V13.7 standard asteroid
199 Byblis V13.8 " "
335 Roberta V11.7 " "
1199 Geldonia TMu 14.2 to 14.4 (6 measures) F/0.2 MAP Object
3446 Combes V16.2
4790 Petrpravec TMu 17.5 - 17.6 (2 measures) F/1.3 MAP Object
8059 Deliyannis TMu 15.9 to 16.1 (5 measures) F/0.1 MAP object

Night of April 26-27,2008 with C8F and Sbig ST6 :
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3446 Combes V16.3
5559 1990 MV TMu 15.3 to 15.5 (3 measures) F/0.4 MAP Object
8059 Deliyannis UMr 15.3 rejected ? F/0.6 MAP object

Night of June 27-28,2008 with C8 and PL8mm eyepiece :
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598 Octavia v14.5
1679 Nevanlinna v14.9
1449 Virtanen v14.9-15.0-14.9 F/0.1-0.2 MAP Object
5518 Mariobotta v15.0-14.9 F/0.7-0.6 MAP Object
7778 Markrobinson v15.4-15.4 F/1.1-1.1 MAP Object - MARS-CROSSER

Night of June 28-29,2008 with C8 and PL8mm eyepiece :
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7778 Markrobinson v15.5 F/1.2 MAP Object - MARS-CROSSER
8567 1996 HW1 v15.6 AMOR 2

Night of July 04-05,2008 with C8 and PL8mm eyepiece :
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1165 Inprinetta v14.3-14.2 F/0.5-0.4 MAP Object
1385 Gelria v14.5-14.7-14.7 F/0.2-0.4-0.4 MAP Object
6670 Wallach v14.9-15.0 F/0.8-0.9 MAP Object
2771 Pulzinov v16.0-16.0 F/0.5-0.5 MAP Object
5905 Johnson v16.3-16.2-16.3 F/0.7-0.6-0.7 NEW MAP OBJECT - HUNGARIA

New MAP object in 2008, (8059)Deliyannis was again nearly its predicted  magnitude at the end of April 2008. May be this asteroid is variable ?
I observed the MAP objects 1165, 1199, 1385, 5559, 5905, 6670 and 7778 for  the second opposition.
The new measures for (1385)Gelria and (5559)1990 MV eliminate nearly all  the discrepancy of magnitude seen during the first opposition; The variability is certainly the reason of the old observations.
(5905)Johnson is a new MAP Object, but it was already observed in 1995  (before the MAP birth) by Roger also with a great discrepancy of magnitude  (F/0.9 and F/1.2). It is a binary Hungaria.
The asteroids 1165, 1199, 6670 and 7778 are fainter than predicted, as for  their first oppositions.
2008 is the third opposition for (2771)Pulzinov and (4790)Petrpravec.
The high discrepancy of about 1.0 magnitude was confirmed again two times  in 2008 for (4790)Petrpravec. The faintness of (2771)Pulzinov is less important but also continuously fainter of about 0.4 magnitude.
We have four oppositions for (5518)Mariobotta with continuous magnitudes fainter than predicted, but with averaged discrepancies from 0.1 to 0.7 mag. The averaged difference of H magnitude seems to be about 0.4 magnitude, with the impact of an unknown variability of may be 0.5 to 0.6 magnitude.
The new observations of old MAP objects are VERY useful to verify the previous differences of magnitudes !
Actually, we have many old or new bright (predicted) MAP Objects to observe :
(1165)Inprinetta
(1385)Gelria
(1836)Komarov
(1914)Hartbeespoortdam
(2511)Patterson
(2524)Budovicium
(5749)1991 FV
Even if the 3 last minor planets are difficult, it will be very interesting
to verify their visibility or invisibility, notably for (5749)1991 FV seen
more fainter than predicted in the past.  The summer gives more opportunities to observe ! Then let go to the sky !
Good luck
Gerard < end report>
 
Its very nice to see success in these reports and to see magnitude estimating is still alive and well.

Now more news. I thank Richard Miles for his message
Re: MAP Alert #282
Dear Lawrence,
Glad you were interested enough to mention this discovery.
The attached is a preprint of a short article which is due to appear in the July 2008 issue of The Astronomer magazine: website http://www.theastronomer.org/.
<I have left the preprint off, but members should check out this site>
So, is this super fast object spun up by sun light, or, too small in diameter to be affected by sunlight  to spin wildly for millions of years? Your next mission Richard, should you decide to accept it,
is discover which is correct (please accept it). And yes this is a parody of the Mission Impossible TV show, sorry. Really, close observation of these very small objects can only be of high interest.
John Fletcher joins Richard Miles in "The Astronomer Group" May issue with his report of a light curve that suggests the H value of Eric 4954 should be corrected the H=12.4. I have not passed along the image to prevent any possible copyright issues, but am pleased he forwarded this information for us.
Hope I have covered all my message to date here.
Now on to website news. I have also changed ISPs, and will return to placing MAP's information  to the main ALPO webpages, little by little. I had used a personal page to save Rik Hill time when MAP alerts were more active, but now they should return with our current lighter volume.
The pages will look better as well, as I will not be confined to the limits on my "free" page with  my ISP. So for now, should any one what to know our URL, tell them to write me for any information
they need.  Observing news. No asteroids yet, but a longer vacation coming next month will cure this for sure. After seeing our July 4th fireworks, we did have clear skies here, but not very clear to the south. So, I decided to use an image sent me by Marco Langbroek of the North American Nebula  to see if this was visible. I used my 20x80mm binoculars to indeed spot this, even "Florida and Mexico". Marco's image was the perfect guide and my earlier observations of the very low contrast  comet Holmes lead to success that would have been impossible otherwise. So my thanks go out the Marco and Comet Holmes in which will become a annual July visit.
Last, I am off a brief visit to a so called antique show that I will not bore you with. It was a bust,  but, I did see a 1956 CRITERION 4" reflector. This was already sold. But I did leave with something
to remember, as a man looked into the 167x eyepiece while it was pointed at his shirt. I was too far away to help him, but at least he tried!
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
 
AUDE WebPages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map

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MAP Alert #282, June 11, 2008
Greetings MAP Observers!
A power outage delayed MAP alert for June 11, 2008, as large storms covered the region yesterday.  My best wishes to members and hopes they avoided damage across the USA on these.  With no new reported asteroid observations, I will catch up on a few items of interest today.
Last month we had a few short messages to this list on Pluto being on a lifetime asteroid  list as it is now numbered in the minor planet catalog, as dwarf planet. Normal, direct posting  to the list are reserved to Brian Warner, Prof. Fredrick Pilcher, Richard Binzel, and of course  Gerard Faure. But not always. Rare times such as an observer seeing their 1000th asteroid  is quite accepted for direct postings and these were welcome. But in general a request to me for
posting to the list is best, and only in the rarest times might be denied. This is only to help in creation of the MAP alerts, and keeping things from becoming very hard to edit on my end. Should a regular "open" list be the normal state, the alerts would become only reviews of ideas already  posted.
But lets talk about the dwarf stuff a bit. I'm not one to really talk on this I guess.  I count 1 Ceres as an asteroid and Pluto as dwarf planet, so much for taking a clear stand on the subject. But, should I be contacted by any readers under my "Planets of Dawn" project, Ceres  is a dwarf for sure. Planets of Dawn or POD, is aimed at getting teachers to astronomy clubs  way ahead of the curve for spotting and imaging Ceres and Vesta. The idea is for schools to do enough homework in advance as to impress astronomy clubs enough to create useful field trips,  and whatever additional learning takes place under the stars the better. Would be nice to see this work. So my writing is in progress.
 
Small talk:
Brian Warner is now acting MPB editor, its a hard act to follow so don't try! Richard Binzel will be back of course.  WOW, what a find Dr. Richard Miles! The fastest rotating known asteroid to date is really something.  But I was a bit surprised to see the most coverage of this under a Sky and telescope alert,  perhaps I missed other more detailed reports on this. Any pages of interest I (and we) should know about, please update me, thanks.  Retro-imaging. Last alert I mentioned of all things taking an instant photo (not bad really) of the last lunar eclipse. Its seems Redefine magazine might just publish this, maybe, perhaps, could. They requested a complete image (not just the image area) of the polaroid photo. So perhaps this month  will yield a bio request for me and the good news. I have told my friends at work I plan to leave out I'm from another planet, after all how do you think I took it :-)
 
Header missing again? This message comes right from hotmail, as I just don't feel like moving over to my earthlink account today. We are changing local phone service here, so I may be moving along to yet another ISP, saving money in the process. Stay tuned.
Prof. Pilcher as been to the minor planet news with his success in photometry and problems  in alignment. Hope things are resolved. Sounds like New Mexico is a great place retire as far as
observing goes based on his published work.
More? This time next month (July 10-14) I will be away risking going gasaline broke at the BRIMFIELD ANTIQUE SHOW, around 250 miles south of here in Massachusetts. Observations are feel to be posted to the list at this time, placing them into alerts will follow. Something from astronomy or photography would make a nice find here.
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
 
AUDE WebPages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map
 

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MAP Alert #281, May 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers!
 
A milestone in asteroid observing and an asteroid occultation
highlight this Sunday MAP alert. Congratulations Richard!
True to his own predictions this year, Richard Bookamer has reached the 1000th lifetime asteroid observed this month, just 7 years 10 months into his visual program. He joins the members published in MAP Alert #378, March 19, 2008, compiled by Gerard Faure. His complete report is listed below, too full of details to edit, so enjoy his success in his message below.
 
<Hello all,
I viewed my 1000th asteroid, 898 Hildegard, on the morning of May 2. It was very close to its predicted magnitude of 14.1 and I hope to view it a few more times during this opposition since it doesn't get bright very often.
 
I have sent this email from a new address, rbookamer@hotmail.com which I obtained to try to avoid problems in receiving mail at my other address. Please use this address in the future, although mail sent to the old address will still get through (with a few exceptions).
I have gotten a lot of fun, relaxation and satisfaction from observing
asteroids and comets, and hope to continue for many years to come. Here are a few statistics concerning my asteroid observation program as of May 2, 2008.
--Richard Bookamer
Total different asteroids viewed: 1000
Total observations (positions): 4123
Total numbered asteroids, 1 - 1000: 771
Total numbered asteroids, 1001 - 10000: 201
Total numbered asteroids, >10000: 16
Total unnumbered asteroids: 12
Total near-earth asteroids: 37 (including 20 PHAs)
Brightest asteroid: 4 Vesta mag. 5.8
Faintest asteroid: 2000 DP107 mag. 15.2
Smallest asteroid: 2001 EC16 ~150 m (H = 22.4)
Closest asteroid: 2007 TU24 0.0024 AU from Earth
Most distant asteroid: 134340 Pluto 31.24 AU from Earth
Most distant main belt asteroid: 334 Chicago 4.45 AU from Earth
Starting date: July 7, 2000
Elapsed time: 7 years, 10 months
Viewing locations:
Micco, Florida 27° 50.849' N. 80° 31.051' W. alt. 4m
Sebastian, Florida 27° 48.499’ N. 80° 28.141’ W. alt. 8m
Telescopes:
20 cm Celestron Schmidt-Cassegrain, f/5 and f/10 equatorial mount
25 cm homemade Newtonian reflector, f/5.5 Dobsonian mount
41 cm Meade DS-16 Newtonian reflector, f/4.5 Dobsonian mount
<end report>
Gerard sends his remarks>
CONGRATULATIONS, RICHARD FOR YOUR 1000th ASTEROID !!!!
You are now a Member of The Millennium Club !!!
Your data also is interesting to read !>

Clear skies me allowed observe asteroid 259 Aletheia occult 10.9-mag. PPM 160597 (TYC 0318-01328-1) in Virgo Tuesday morning April 16. My location was predicted right on the center-line, but a path shift shortened the predicted time from around to 16 seconds, to the 5 seconds seen. This is my 4th successful asteroid occultation from my home, moving me to about 2 minutes and 35 seconds of lifetime asteroid shadow "watching". Yet another good reason to skip sleep
now and then.
 
In another minor news, I hope my lunar eclipse image done with my Polaroid SX 70 will make the grade with redefine magazine, and be published by them. I even sent an image of the camera attached to the telescope, just to prove it was true! The chances of them having anyone on the staff that might understand this image are much less then catching an asteroid shadow. Wonder if this might be
the first (and last)such image to be published. I have had this professional scanned should and readers want to see this for themselves, just request it please.
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
 
AUDE WebPages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map
 
 
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MAP Alert #280, April 9, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers!
 
More news from Gerard Faure, a little observing success,
and a little ALPO news highlight this spring MAP Alert.
Gerard Writes:
Hi to all,
The spring is not a famous season to observe during numerous nights and effectively the weather predictions are bad for the next ten days here. Fortunately, the most part of the night of April 04-05,2008 was starry and under the sky I saw again 10 asteroids !
On April 04,2008 I saw :
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1382 Gerti v14.8-14.8
1528 Conrada v14.8-14.9 B/0.2-B/0.1
840 Zenobia v15.0-15.1 F/0.5-F/0.6 Old MAP object
1855 Korolev v15.1-15.2 F/0.1-F/0.2
3861 Lorenz v15.2-15.4
3428 Roberts v15.3-15.3
3198 Wallonia
v15.5-15.4 F/0.9-F/0.8 Old MAP object + Mars-crosser
3446 Combes v15.6-15.6
8059 Deliyannis v15.6-15.8 0.0-F/0.2 Recent MAP object
37384 2001 WU1 v16.1 Mars-crosser
The original discrepancies of magnitude were confirmed for (840) Zenobia and (3198) Wallonia. It was not the case for (8059) Deliyannis which certainly is variable because it was 0.5 magnitude brighter for Roger and 0.2 magnitude fainter for myself.
Among many possibilities, I chosen (3446) Combes because I know this French Astronomer who is a specialist of asteroids and notably of NEA; In 1982, he made a book in French named "la Terre bombardée" which is updated in 2008
on his website :
http://astrosurf.com/macombes/
and precisely at :
http://astrosurf.com/macombes/La Terre Bombardee 2007.pdf
If you read French, we shall read many relations between old legends and earth craters or astronomical events in the past. It's a very interesting book !
You can see also many tables on the NEA in his website, updated
continuously in the part named "LA LISTE DES NEA CONNUS" at :
http://astrosurf.com/macombes/partie NEO.html
Thanks for the observing and reading suggestion on asteroids Gerard.
Clearing skies came thru last night for observing the moon near the Pleiades, hope a few readers got to see the treat as well. While I have seen this in times past, I took the time to use my camera to both image and video the pair as seen in my 20x 80mm binoculars. A lunar close up came out not too good, but the seeing was poor due to low sky position. The video contained no stars, but I really did not expect it. While results were just a test, the fun was 100% successful.
ALPO news for the minor planet section.
While my asteroid book project never made it to press, the ideas are still good and fresh. I plan to create a project for observers new to
asteroids/astronomy in general at the ALPO website. The project will be called "The Planets of Dawn". This is of course a project to observe Vesta and Ceres. I plan to take a little advise from my publisher and present (hopefully) a not too wide ranging program to place observers in the field to see or image these objects. It would be a shame if the ALPO did not have such a project ready for persons seeking this type of program. While this may be "pie in the sky" I would like to see science teachers approach local astronomy clubs to get their most interested students in the field. I plan to suggest observing in just binoculars, and leave telescopes to those who can show them the objects, with help of star charts our own "Dawn" website. It would
also be nice to do well enough to get a link on the real Dawn site as well. More pie in the sky, high hopes cost nothing these days. And of course sneak in as much teaching as I dare as well. Sound good? I can see this added on later by observing NEA's as well, way down the line.
As they say here in the USA "part of a complete breakfest", I hope the planets of Dawn can round out at least a few observers interest in
the Dawn probe results, not only in study online, but real time as well.
Comments are very welcome on this project.
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
AUDE WebPages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map
 
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MAP Alert #379, April 1, 2008
Greetings MAP Observers!
Did the header show with this alert coming from my MSN account? I've tried to paste in the address to see if it works, would be nice!
(follow up, an error forced me to use the earthlink account :( )
News from Gerard Faure hightlights this April Fool's day MAP alert, with the header fool me again?
 
Gerard Writes>
Hello to all,
By chance, the night between Saturday and Sunday here was pure and starry, just before a new wave of rains ! I began this night by the vision of the very bright ISS following the bright European ATV Jules Verne over the Vercors mountains at 19H30 UT before their disappearance in the shadow of Earth ! It was amazing to see the two objects only separated by some degrees in the Sky ! After, I began a long night of visual observations of asteroids ( 23 trails prepared for the night) which permitted the vision of 3 old MAP objects and 7 new objects (for me)
The lack of time or the lack of reference stars prevented the observations of the MAP asteroids 840, 1817, 3198, 8059, 49548, but I found a new MAP object and removed another old MAP asteroid.
Minor planets observed during the night of March 29-30 :
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2911 Miahelena v14.9 F/0.2
1379 Lomonosowa v14.9-15.0 F/0.0-F/0.2 old MAP object
1724 Vladimir v15.0-15.1 F/0.1-F/0.2
7267 1943 DF v15.1-15.2 F/0.3-F/0.4 new confirmed MAP object
1947 Iso-Heikillä v15.4
1479 Inkeri v15.5
2199 Klet v15.5-15.5 B/0.2-B/0.2
1794 Finsen v15.6
3401 Vanphilos v15.7? F/? Mars-crosser old MAP object
3017 Petrovic v15.8-15.8 F/0.6-F/0.6 NEW MAP OBJECT
With my new measures, the averaged difference of magnitude for 1379
Lomonosowa falls under the half-amplitude of magnitude estimated >0.26 mag.
This object then is removed from the active list of MAP objects.
I confirmed the new MAP object 7267 1943 DF seen with a discrepancy of magnitude at mid-March.
I found a new MAP object with a faintness of 0.6 magnitude :
3017 Petrovic
Have you observed it before ?
After the observations, I verified the difference of H magnitude for this
planet between the MPC and the IRAS data; It was for this case exactly equal to 0.6 magnitude !
3401 Vanphilos, moving between two observations, was seen but alas each time too close to a star. I had no possibility to measure its brightness. No new starry night predicted by the meteo for this week, but I hope to do again a night for the other missed objects, before the full Moon
Cheers
Gerard> end report
 
Another new MAP object seen by Gerard, 3017 Petrovic, excellent.
Observing here this weekend was cut by high winds and cold temps, far too poor for any telescope. But I did see the ISS/ATV-1 passages as did Gerard, a good -2.4 mag for the ISS.
This weekends clear skies held a little solar viewing of sorts, indoors. Many of you might have seen or own a Suncatcher that casts solar spectrums in your homes. Seen one you've seen them all, maybe not. I've added this to the MAP homepage at the link below, its shape
distorted by our ceiling light. Its about 5 feet long, can't help but think it a little wild. In fact I've added even more images from the catcher to my "collection" as this alert was composed.
http://home.earthlink.net/~lgasteroid/id17.html
 
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
AUDE WebPages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map

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MAP Alert #378, March 19, 2008
Greetings MAP Observers!
Messages from Gerard Faure and Richard Bookamer this "Vanguard 1 Day" (almost) MAP alert.
Gerard writes:
Again, I was busy for the end of this week ending this evening, but I
reached to observe a few during the local "best" night of this lunation, on the morning of Friday 14,2008.
Before the report of these last observations, I wish to thank you for your answers to your own actual total of observed asteroids but also for the various data on the type of absolute magnitudes used for the asteroids in the past.
For the actual total of different asteroids observed visually, the
following list will give the situation for each of the visual observers who  observed more than 1000 asteroids or nearly 1000 asteroids :
Johann Palisa < 1000 asteroids last observations in 1924
Ray Fabre < 1000 asteroids last observations in 1986
Richard Bookamer 986 asteroids (on March 03,2008)
Tom Laskowsky 1000 asteroids (and more ?)
Lawrence Garrett 1233 asteroids (on February 29,2008)
Paul Comba 1288 asteroids last visual observations in 1996
Frederick Pilcher 1816 asteroids last visual observations in 2003
Andrew Salthouse 1875 asteroids (on March 12,2008)
Gerard Faure 2040 asteroids (on March 14,2008)
Ben Hudgens 2233 asteroids (on March 08,2008)
Roger Harvey 4653 asteroids (on March 11,2008
Many years were necessary to reach these amazing results for each observer, but nevertheless, we shall never observe more than a few percents of the asteroids of the Solar System...
The MPC reached the 400000 asteroid orbits in February 2008, but the vast majority of asteroids are too fainter for visual observations.
It will be more interesting for us ;-) to remember the total of asteroids visually observable.
In 2003, I made some statistics on the total of asteroids by maximum visual magnitude for the 73000 first numbered asteroids up to 2050, thank's to the files of the brightest visual magnitudes from Brian Warner :
Total up to
mag 14.9 : 2861
mag 15.9 : 9395
mag 16.9 : 20352
All the asteroids included in these totals will be not easily seen, because many of them rarely reach their maximum magnitude, but it will be at least partially compensated by the NEA or some bright asteroids with a number > 73000.
About 10000 asteroids reach v15.9 and about 3000 v14.9; You may calculate your own percentage of observed asteroids.
Thank you Frederick and Lawrence for your remarks and data on the absolute magnitudes of asteroids !
The history of the Absolute magnitudes seems to be the following :
Before 1970, the terms "M" or "Mo" were used to represent the absolute magnitudes of the minor planets, but perhaps in "v" at first, than as a photographic absolute magnitude after ?
In 1970, the IAU adopted the B band of the UBV system for the official magnitude, with the letter "g" for the absolute magnitude, up to 1977 in the Russian EMP.  After, the formula "g = B(1.0)" represented the absolute magnitude, yet in the B band, up to the EMP 1987, but "B(1.0)" was more used than "g".
 
In 1988, the EMP used for the first time "H" for the absolute magnitude in the V Band. "H" is used today.
Lastly, I finally reached to observe some hours before the full moon.
Here, after many starry nights in the first part of February, we only had starry skies during the parts of two nights during the actual lunation. I used the second night to observe 5 asteroids.
 
From 00H UT to 03H50 UT, on March 14, and despite some sparse clouds, I saw,

2606 Odessa v14.2-14.5 F/0.5-F/0.8 Old MAP object
1365 Henyey v14.5-14.3 F/0.5-F/0.3 " " "
7267 1943 DF v14.6-14.5 F/0.4-F/0.3 New MAP object and Mars-crosser
11398 1998 YP11 v14.8 Amor 2
7663 1994 RX1 v15.8-15.8 F/0.7-F/0.7 Old MAP object
Averaged incertainty ~ +/-0.1 mag
(2606) Odessa is known to be highly variable (0.80 mag). It was clearly more fainter during my second observation and fainter than 1365 which was fainter than 2606 during my first observation of it during the night. I think that 2606 went to its minima and 1365 for its unknown maxima of light, between the first and the second observations.
The MAP averaged difference of 2606 is 0.6 mag fainter for 0.4 mag of half-amplitude of light
(1365) Henyey already was observed during four oppositions, but only by two observers. Its averaged difference of magnitude is F/0.4
Please, it will be VERY INTERESTING to obtain new measures by at least one of you during the next month to permit the publication of the results BY THREE OBSERVERS in a next article on the MPB, of course with the names of the observers ! Its official V magnitude will be about V14.5 during the next lunation. Thank you !
(7267) 1943 DF seems to be fainter than predicted; Have you observed it or do you observe it during the next lunation ?
(7663)1994 RX1 was visible during my night, but not (3083) OAFA predicted at mag V16.0; 1994 RX1, already observed by the MAP in 2001 apparently was observed in the past, before the MAP, because a fainter V magnitude was predicted by Frederick for 2008; With these old observations and knowledge of the fainter magnitudes, it would be possible to obtain at least three observed oppositions with the 2001 and 2008 observations. Please Frederick, do you send to me your old data ?
I think that certainly it will be possible to extend the MAP data :
1) by searching the "good" measures among the measures of lightcurves made out of the MAP for the objects treated by the MAP
2) by doing some searches in the visual observations preceding the MAP
3) by comparing the USNO and GSC magnitudes in the areas where many rejected GSC measures of the MAP have been made; If there are similar USNO and GSC magnitudes in these areas, the measures should be usuable in the MAP calculations of the averaged differences of asteroid magnitudes. Is there a volunteer to do these analyses notably during the covered nights?
Lastly, I saw the perfect lightcurves by Frederick in the new MPB 2008-2 !
Congratulations for these works !
On the MPML List, I congratulated The latest iteration of the Asteroid Lightcurve Data base (LCDB) by Warner, Harris, and Pravec at :
http://www.minorplanetobserver.com/astlc/LightcurveParameters.htm
It is a big compiling of data !
You can see in this LCDB the inclusion of our last MPB article of 2007 as reference and the report of the H magnitude estimates of the MAP for most of the 13 asteroids treated by the MAP in the MPB !
Our work is then included in the official data on asteroids !!! A GREAT NEW !
Good luck for your own observations but also for some MAP observations
during the next lunation !! ;-)
Best wishes <end report Gerard>
Gerard follows with yet another message with his IRAS comments, yet to be read  completely  Thank you Prof. Pilcher for your visual observation comments to round out  our list, and we will welcome Richard Bookamer 1000th asteroid soon!!
Another note of thanks for the Kuiper-Gehrels comments here
"As I recall both Gerard Peter Kuiper and Tom Gehrels worked at Yerkes Observatory, associated with University of Chicago, in the 1950's. Later both moved to Tucson where Kuiper founded the Lunar and Planetary Laboratory at the University of Arizona."
 
Richard Bookamer reports>
Hi Lawrence,
Glad to hear that you are staying with the MAP. I know that it is a lot of work for you, and if there is any way I can help to ease the load, I'm willing to try. (Thanks for the kind words) I also know how discouraging an observation program can be at times. It
falls upon us amateurs, who usually must earn our living elsewhere, to fight bad weather, light pollution, moonlight (and in Florida at least, mosquitoes!!!) in the hope of adding another rock to our collections, or another drop to the ocean of knowledge. At least I don't usually have to deal with very cold weather or travel long distances in order to observe.And I hope those Vermont skies clear up soon!
Here is my recent observation of a MAP object, along with two NEOs. All are type GMv since I'm not up to speed on AMv yet but I'm working on it. As of Mar. 15 I have seen a total of 989 different asteroids and I'm looking forward to reaching 1000 in May, or possibly April.
2606 Odessa Mar. 9.08959 v14.4 F/0.7 MAP object
1685 Toro Jan. 26.00973 v13.6 F/0.0 NEO
4450 Pan Feb. 10.34868 v13.1 F/0.1 PHA
--Richard Bookamer---end report
Not to waste a night this week, I took time on "Vanguard 1 Day", March 17, to try to spot this with my 12.5" telescope. The bright moonlight left only 11th magnitude stars visible in my target field, so I packed up for another darker night. FYI, this is an estimated Mv 13.5 object, and being on St.Patricks day is an easy day to remember to try again. What a good object for faint asteroid observers.
Not to forget this new MAP object of Gerards!
7267 1943 DF v14.6-14.5 F/0.4-F/0.3 New MAP object and Mars-crosser call for observations .
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
 
AUDE WebPages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map
 
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MAP Alert #377, March 14, 2008
ALSO SEE ATTACHMENTS PAGE FOR THIS ALERT 
 
Greetings MAP Observers!
A short Roger Harvey report with this Fridays MAP Alert.
 
March 13: 7663 1994RX1 F/0.8 @ 15.8 4:25UT to 5:25UT verifying Pilcher's data.
13166 1995 WU1 3 obs F/0.6 @ 16.0 3:48UT to 5:14UT
49548 1999CP83 3 obs F/0.3 @ 15.8 4:13UT to 5:30UT
Roger Harvey report success in confirming Prof. Pilcher data with 7663 1994RX1, very good both Roger and Prof. Pilcher! Gerard Faure noted the very large Minor planet Bulletin with a huge amount of lightcurves, including two reports from Prof.Pilcher. This is quite an issue for sure. Brian Warner is as always quite active.
I have attached an image of a 1952 EMP from Russia with the names
Kuiper-Gehrels on the cover, I thinks its Kupier. Would he have been working with Tom Gehrels in 1952, or at the same place, of is this another astronomer? Any guesses? Wikipedia does not seem to say so.
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
When they give you lemons, toss them right back :-)
 
AUDE WebPages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
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MAP Alert #376, March 11, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers!
 
Brief reports from Gerard Faure and Roger Harvey highlight this March MAP alert.
This report from Roger comes from a Gerard message, perhaps my usual copy is lost in space.
At 11:21 10/03/2008 -0400, you wrote:
 
Hi Gerard, Last night was clear with the air moving smoothly
yielding good images of Saturn at full aperture (I usually stop down my scope for planetary/moon work). March 10 Deliyannis 8059 3 obs @ 15.3 B/0.5 (a NEW MAP OBJECT)

Wow, a brighter then predicted object for a Change. While its due to brighten only 0.2 mv, every little bit helps.
Roger speaks of a few other objects not seen, such as 2008 EZ7, and 7663 1994 RX1.
He did observe 2008 EZ8, another small close approach object.
Gerard speaks of his reaching his 2038th asteroid visually, and requests life totals from our readers. I used to keep this up in a file, but this has lapsed on my part, so please CC me as well for postings at our webpages. My creeping up totals have reached 1233 with 153591 2001 SN263 in February 29.
Gerard has also updated my on a question of his observing charts for magnitudes at his telescope. These were maps from Sky and telescope from 1984, I have used these as well. These were used in conjunction with Atlas Stellarum selected areas.
 
Gerard requests the following:
<The first asteroid discovered photographically was (323) Brucia in 1891 The photoelectric measures were made and used in the seventies, but when the EMP began to use B absolute magnitudes ?
What it used before ?
What was the type of magnitude in the "Tables of Minor Planets 1973" from
Frederick Pilcher and Jean Meeus ?>
I have the EMP volumes that will cover some of this data for Gerard, and have the book by Charles Kowal should this also be of use. I'll get the info to Gerard soon. Readers can of course answer as well.
Anything left out? Despite falling down in the dark last week (no biggie)I spotted the Comet Holmes/California Nebula conjunction. What a low contrast pair, quite the change from Holmes world class showing. Still I am VERY glad to have taken the time to see Holmes in its current state of background glow faintness.
Clear Skies
 
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
When they give you lemons, toss them right back :-)
 
AUDE WebPages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map
 
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MAP Alert #375, March 4, 2008
Greetings MAP Observers:
A brief message to let members know to submit observations
as usual, and that I am signed on for 2008 as MAP coordinator.
I had a long drawn out message to describe coming out of "retirement" after just a few days, but will not go on too long.
My plans to hope to find another observer to take over these alerts who could do more observing then myself at this time may have sounded good, but really are flawed.
I just do not think another observer will come to the ALPO and stay on for years to do this type of work. Most likely those who could are already are up to their eyeballs in their own work and taking on a second project is very remote. There may not be a "best time" to retire from this program, perhaps near its closing, or alerts no longer needed. Retirement will come some day, but under which terms are unknown.
 
My main troubles are the cloud lock here all the time, something I need to forget about. Its been a very bad winter, with no real observing outside of a couple of things here and there. Despite my complaints, an observer in my local club took out his telescope for the first time in almost 2 years  for the recent lunar eclipse. I have it made compared to others who have to travel. But magnitude estimates may have to end, and you will see other observations of this and that. Right now, I hope to spot some of the USA 193 Debris.
Also, my book project book project was not successful. I do know the wolf needs to eat too, but all they leave you is the bones. Rather then become defeated by this, I wish to work on a new project to help new observers who visit the ALPO site. Perhaps much of the basic items for this project can be used.
I have seen your long message Gerard, please let me review it.
Please hold the welcome back messages, I think only my temper left
 
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
AUDE WebPages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map
 
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LEAP YEAR 2008 MAP Alert #374, February 29, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers:
Reports from Roger Harvey and Gerard Faure highlight this special MAP alert for leap year day 2008
 
Roger Reports
Feb. 28: 4790 Petrpravec 3:46 – 5:00UT 3 OBS F/0.9 @ 16.0Mv (faint or what)
2002 TD66 0:26 – 0:40UT 6 OBS F/0.6 @ 15.8
Gerard updates us:
Hi Roger and Lawrence,
Very good news, Roger, with the measures on (4790) Petrpravec which already was measured (F/0.8) in 2000 by Robert Koff and 2002 (F/1.0) by myself. Your measures permit to have three observed oppositions with nearly the same results !
It was also the case for (5231)Verne after my recent observations on this object in February 09.
I prepared 4790 for the last lunation but it was frequently far from reference stars. I shall try this object during this actual lunation
Good end of week
Gerard
 
With these reports complete, I wish to announce my retirement from the MAP program and the ALPO. Future posting of magnitude errors should post directly to this list until the new director of this list is in place. 2008 marks 20 years of my public posting in asteroids that have included this project, my newsletter "the near-Earth Asteroids Bulletin" and my "Asteroids Online" with America Online. In all I have posted over 450 messages/alerts and have received more then 1000 messages from observers, first by S.A.S.E's to today's e-mail messages.
While It is impossible to thank the readers enough, I wish to extend special thanks to Prof. Pilcher, Brian Warner, Andrew Salthouse, Ben Hudgens, Roger Harvey, and Gerard Faure.
Perhaps my longest is with Dr. Richard Binzel, who's advise really set up the MAP alert project,thanks
Dr. Binzel. It is surly time to hand the MAP program over to a more modern observer on his way up in astronomy rather then at my retirement stage. A CCD observer with an observatory who could direct and observe like I never can would be great for the program. And while I will step down as director I hope to remain on the mailing list, and if these impossible Vermont skies will even let me, report observations as well.
 
Since it is far too hard to say goodbye, let's not!
Clear Skies
Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Coordinator
lsgasteroid@msn.com
AUDE WebPages
Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
http://www.astrosurf.com/map
 
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MAP Alert #373, February 13, 2008
Greetings MAP Observers!
Quite a report from Gererd Faure is all I can say for this edition of the MAP Alerts!
 
I hope readers can keep in mind how many people would wish to do this a life's project, not just a few nights at the scope! Reaching so faint, magnitude errors and even an occultation event! For Gerard these are for sure the "good old days"!
I noticed his mention of "Selected area SA 51" below, might this be from the Hans Vehrenberg's Selected area atlas Gerard? We will pass this reply along in the next alert. I could not check this as mine is long stored away. For those who have never used the Hans Vehrenberg's selected area atlas, in  conjuction with the Atlas Stellarum, it was quite a feat to succeed. If you wish to wonder what it was like, get out your pepper shaker and place a patten on a white sheet of paper. Use a 5x glass to observe one of the small patterns of "stars", and then imagine in blown up to fill a 8x11 sheet of paper in the selected area atlas. I always had to use at least 160x in my 12.5" telescope to really see these fields. Or perhaps Gerard has yet a better trick! I will let his message speak for itself, perhaps a few astronomy clubs might get a hold of this and make it a club project to "someday" complete.
Make sure to note his new MAP objects.

Gerard  writes
Lastly, a good period of starry nights on the Alpes mountains came from the last Friday up certainly to the last of this week !
I am very busy for this actual week by my work of accountant, but during the last week-end, I lived two amazing nights !
When I saw many very faint stars between the stars of the known constellations at the beginning of the nights, I thought that this was the sign of a future perfect night !
The two nights of Friday 08 and Saturday 09 were very starry, without wind, humidity, pollution, turbulence, moon, haze and clouds !
I searched the faintest stars at the naked eye in the Ursa Minor
constellation and despite the proximity of the halo from Grenoble, I reached to see the stars SAO 8221 (V+6.68) and SAO 8227 (V+7.38) located at the East of Beta UMi, high in the sky ! I also tried to explore the photometrical chart of the Selected area SA 51 centred on SAO 79445, near Castor, with my C8 and the eyepiece Plossl 8mm. The stars of mag V16.0, V16.5 and V16.9 were indirectly visible, respectively sometimes, fugitive and fleeting but sure ! The results also were amazing for the asteroids; I watched 17 asteroids and
among them 16 were fainter than v 15.2 ! 10 of them are MAP objects ! I chosed the faintest objects, to permit the coverage of the remaining bright objects by other Observers under less good skies.
Night of February 08-09,2008 :
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750 Oskar v14.5
2080 Jihlava v15.3-15.3
5231 Verne v15.3-15.3 F/0.7-F/0.7 Old MAP object
2052 Tamriko v15.3-15.4 F/0.1-F/0.2
3675 Kemstach v15.4 Cybele
3247 Di Martino v15.5-15.5 F/0.2-F/0.2
5331 Erimomisaki v15.6-15.6
5650 Mochihito-o v15.8-15.8 F/0.2-F/0.2 MAP object 2007
2612 Kathryn v15.9-15.8 F/0.8-F/0.7 Old MAP object
170891 2004 TY16 v15.9 to 16.1 F/0.4 to F/0.6 Amor 2, new MAP Object
3288 Seleucus v16.2-16.2 F/0.5-F/0/.5 Amor 2, highly known variable
Night of February 09-10,2008 :
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2670 Chuvashia v15.5-15.6 F/0.7-F/0.8 Old MAP object
6972 Helvetius v15.8-15.9 F/0.9-F/1.0 MAP object 2008
1300 Marcelle v15.8-15.8 F/0.7-F/0.7 Old MAP object
9219 1995 WO8 v15.9-15.9 F/0.3-F/0.3 Old MAP object
170891 2004 TY16 v15.9-15.9 F/0.4-F/0.4 Amor 2, MAP Object 2008
9117 Aude v16.0-16.0 F/1.0-F/1.0 Old MAP object
5671 Chanal v16.3-16.3 F/0.2-F/0.2 Old MAP object
All the new measures confirmed the measures of the previous observations of the MAP objects, excepted for (5650) Mochihito-o (lower difference of magnitude) may be variable and (5671) Chanal for which the 4 observed oppositons give an averaged difference of F/0.01 mag. This object then is removed of the MAP list.
Otherwise, the NEA (170891) 2004 TY16 is a NEW MAP Object for which my two sets of measures always give a fainter magnitude. A search in the MPC data shows that before the definitive number, the H magnitude of 2004 TY16 moved
from 16.8, to 16.9 and lastly 17.0; May be, the H mag is yet fainter ? During my asteroid quests, I observed the nearby stars GJ 273 ( alias "Luyten star ) at 12.4 LY near (3288) and GI 176 at 30.73 LY near (5331) Lastly, on the evening of February 05, I observed a positive occultation of a star of mag V11.06 during 20.7 seconds by (409) Aspasia of mag V10.8
Another observer took the same occultation by video some 10 km north to my position and observed an occultation of 21 seconds. After, I looked at the asteroid leaving the star.
Good week !
Gerard>  end report
 
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MAP Alert #372, February 9, 2008
Greetings MAP Observers:
Two more for the collection writes Roger Harvey on his latest observations for the MAP program. You have not missed an alert, the last was a typo of mine, and will be corrected to alert #371 at the website. So many alerts, so few clear skies :-(
Feb. 7: 6972 Helvetius 5:40 UTto 6:32 UT F/0.8 @15.8Mv
9671 Hemera 5:17 UT to 6:10 UT F/0.5F @15.8Mv
Thanks Roger as always.
 
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MAP Alert #371, February 4, 2008
Greetings MAP Observers:
A review of recent successful observations this current dark of the moon highlight this February MAP alert.
 
Mail of January 29 from Richie Bookamer
Greetings,
I am pleased to report having recently observed four near-Earth asteroids. For each one, I list the name or designation, date of observation (UT), observed mag. (GMv except for 2007 TU24 which is TMv based on Tycho 2), predicted mag. (MPC), number of positions recorded, and length of observing period.
(3200) Phaethon 2007 Dec. 9.38125 14.0 13.9 18 34 mins.
2005 WJ56 2008 Jan. 8.99376 11.5 11.5 8 48 minutes
2007 TU24 2008 Jan. 29.00903 10.74 12.0 5 12 minutes
2007 TU24 2008 Jan. 30.10209 10.76 11.0 3 10 minutes
2001 SN263 2008 Jan. 29.04391 13.5 13.8 3 41 minutes
2007 TU24 appeared to fade by at least 0.5 magnitude in less than 10 minutes on Jan. 29 (UT) but the fainter estimates were of type GMv and I thought that they were too unreliable to list in detail.
Good luck to all in their observations,
Richie Bookamer> End report
 
Wow, quite the NEO report to say the least. A near perfect score for the month, missing perhaps only 1685 Toro. Have not seen any light curve for 2007 TU24 yet. But it was smaller
and elongated from the radar observations, so a large fading is quite possible and with no doubt real. I missed this object visually with yet another case of "global hazing". My new term for recent "missing" NEO's for January, this beingthe second.
 
Andrew Salthouse requested "call for observations on Feb. 1
Asteroids #1890 and 1929 were rather close together for the last few days. Although 1929 is predicted to be about 0.1 mag brighter than 1890 on most of the recent dates, I found it always to be fainter. Also, I recently observed 1805 on two nights and found it to be at least 1/4 mag brighter than predicted.
Finally, I observed 2007 TU24 twice on the night of Jan 30-31 and again twice on the night of Jan 31-Feb 1. It seemed a bit dimmer than predicted
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Gerard Faure follow up to this message on Feb. 2
May be the next night will be clear here, and I hope to observe asteroids during the entire night, despite a predicted cold temperature. I already prepared charts for about 20 asteroids, but I shall try to observe 1805 Dirikis during this night.
I shall update soon a list of MAP Objects at opposition in 2008, list made by Bernard Guillaud-Saumur in September 2007
In this list, there are five old MAP objects which are or will be soon bright and for which it would be interesting to do again new measures during their present opposition :
N°/Name/Provisional MAP Difference/Number of observed oppositions/predicted
V opp.2008/Opposition date/Predicted MPC V magnitude :
840 Zenobia F/0.4 ? M1 20080228 14.1
1365 Henyey F/0.4 ? M3 20080307 14.0
1379 Lomonosowa F/0.4 ? M1 20080214 14.1
2606 Odessa F/0.5 ? M1 20080303 13.6
3401 Vanphilos B/0.3 ? M3 20080218 14.2 MARS-CROSSER
Good week-end !
Best wishes
Gerard> End report
Gerard Follows with February 3 report
Hi to all,
I observed during the last night, but with less success than predicted, because I had the sky entirely covered during 5 hours :-( Low clouds came just after the beginning of my observations and left the sky five hours later, at 00H UT... but the sky was not very pure after, with a loss of about one magnitude. The positive effect was a night more *hot* : -5°C and not the predicted -10°C :-)
I used the covered hours to update partially the MAP Database. I shall finish an update at the end of February or March 2008 The weather is not very good since two months. It's difficult to have an entire night without clouds...
Since the beginning of the year, I observed asteroids two times :
Evening of January 26,2008
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4512 Sinuhe v14.8
153591 2001 SN263 v13.9 Amor 2
Night of February 2-3, 2008
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4450 Pan v14.2-14.3 B/0.2-B/0.1 Apollo 1 seems variable
- 2007 TU24 v14.4 F/0.3 +/-0.2 Apollo 2
1805 Dirikis v14.8-14.8 F/0.1-F/0.1
3924 Birch v15.2
765 Mattiaca v15.3
4497 Taguchi v15.3-15.3 F/1.0-F/1.0 +/-0.1 Old MAP Object
1006 Lagrangea v15.6
2007 TU24 : I observed this object at the end of the night "for the fun" as wrote Raoul Behrend :-) and of course my eyes were tired, but this NEA seemed fainter than predicted and even fainter than 4450 Pan.
On January 12,2008 the MPEC 2008-A05 indicated a H = 20.1 for 2007 TU24 On February 01,2008, the MPEC 2008-B67 gave H = 20.6May be this object is variable - I don't see data on the web up to now -but may be also it is yet fainter than predicted in the last MPC data...
On the MPML list, Ron Baalke wrote :
"Scientists at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., have obtained the first images of asteroid 2007 TU24 using high-resolution radar data. The data indicate the asteroid is somewhat asymmetrical in shape, with a diameter roughly 250 meters (800 feet) in size.." As 2007 TU24 is asymmetrical in shape, then it is variable.
1805 Dirikis : It is a few fainter than predicted, but after the
observations, I saw that a lightcurve exists with 0.55 mag of amplitude. The half-amplitude is more important than the discrepancy of 0.1-0.2 magnitude observed by Andrew and me.
4497 Taguchi : I observed again Taguchi observed in 1999 by Frederick, Andrew, Roger and myself. The 2008 observations confirm the great difference of magnitude for this object. It would be interesting to observe it again. Its known amplitude of light is small : 0.15 magnitude
Lastly but more personal, after the observation of 765 Mattiaca, my list of unseen asteroids among the 1000 first numbered is reduced to 9 objects :
587, 730, 750, 827, 835, 836, 878, 887 and 935
I shall certainly observe 750 Oskar in February or March 2008, and may be some others during the next years, but 878 Mildred (max V 16.5 in December 2014 and V16.3 in 2021) and 887 Alinda (max V16.6 in May 2009 and V15.0 in 2024 at -20°) will be in the list for a long time...
I shall try to observe 887 Alinda with a bigger telescope in 2009...
Good week !
Gerard> end report
Good follow up posting Gerard on 2007 TU24, and your observations as well.
 
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MAP Alert #370, January 15, 2008
 
Greetings MAP Observers:
Using my Earthlink.net account, I hope to solve the missing header problems and MAP Alert #370, January 15, 2008 is visible in your e-mail box.
 
A brief alert with news from Roger Harvey with a growing moon to leave little time to confirm his observations.
January 14: 5713 1982 FF3 5:28UT “ 6:21UT 3 obs @ 15.6 (F/0.5).
Near its "brighest" now, this object is due to fade in the coming days. While this may come from earthlink account, please remember to use my
lsgasteroid@msn.com address for messages, thanks.

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MAP Alert #369, January 3, 2008
Greetings MAP Observers:
Roger Harvey starts the new year right with the following observation:
January 1 6:02 – 7:10 UT 5650 Mochihito-o F/0.5 @ 15.5
While quite faint for most visual observers, this object is at it maximum the next week or so
and then grows even fainter. Call for observations before the next moon.
Prof. Frederick Pilcher has sent me his Farorable elongation text for 2008, to be placed  at the website this weekend. If anyone needs this sooner, please e-mail me for the January
data.
Did the header show in this format? I still need to resolve this problem, perhaps sending this from my
earthlink account will correct this trouble. I might re-send this message again as a test this weekend.
Lastly, anyone notice the three bright NEA's visible this month on spaceweather.com?
A rare chance to see this many so bright objects in just one month, weather pending.  Send you sightings magnitude errors or not!
Gerard Faure sends word of his many images taken on his vacation, but on two computers  I see only a red X for the images at his website. Anyone have this trouble? I saw only a single cat image, and should forward my own cat images to Gerard as well sometime. Perhaps you can see them @ http://album.club-internet.fr/gpmfaure
 
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Lawrence Garrett
ALPO Minor Planet Section Coordinator
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Gerard Faure (8297 gerardfaure)
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